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MichMan

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56. This was on their website as well

Sun Jun 28, 2026, 12:27 PM

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The center-right Democratic Party is controlled by its elite donor class, and cannot act as an effective political counter to the nationalist far right. Only a party that fights for working people can win the battle against fascism.

Under Joe Biden, the United States has prioritized funding a massive military budget and expanding oil drilling. Democratic elites are embracing Trump’s racist immigration policies and — most abhorrently — are supporting Israel’s genocide in Gaza, all while brutally cracking down on student protests. This undermines the trust that many placed in Biden and the Democrats.

Without a working-class alternative to the Democratic Party, capitalists, Democrats, and the far right will continue to perpetuate violence and injustice at home and abroad.

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I was sobered to see some of the details of the revised DSA platform. [View all] LAS14 Sunday OP

Just makes no sense and will convince many that the Dem party is not a left party but a communist one. efhmc Sunday #1

Cite on closing prisons? WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #2

There is this point about mass incarceration Bluetus Sunday #9

Right, I saw that part, which is a bare-ass minimum place to start. But didn't see anything about abolishing prisons. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #11

The reason that you H2O Man Sunday #15

If the "some people" happens to be, or become, the majority of voters RandomNumbers Sunday #65

Darializa Avila Chevalier won the primary MichMan Sunday #20

Deleted tweets are not a platform, though. The OP said it was the platform. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #24

It was so sobering, the platform that the OP definitely read Prairie Gates Sunday #36

Right, but suggests where her mindset is or was. And if "was" is apt, then RandomNumbers Sunday #66

She has, so you don't need to worry about it. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #72

Link? RandomNumbers Sunday #74

She is the official Democratic nominee for that seat in the House. yardwork Sunday #88

It was a safe Democratic seat all along MichMan Sunday #90

Never underestimate the forces against us. yardwork Sunday #93

Excellent points. RandomNumbers Sunday #94

Exactly! yardwork Sunday #95

Thanks for solving the mystery. nt LAS14 Sunday #67

Here is a link to her platform as a now 32 year old candidate for congress Quiet Em Sunday #69

Everyone who accepted Platner's apologies, MorbidButterflyTat Sunday #89

I wish I knew when she decided to delete the Twitter account. LAS14 Sunday #111

It doesn't exist. Wiz Imp Sunday #59

I was watching the statement scroll by on Smerconish, but can't... LAS14 Sunday #64

Bend over to reach across the aisle orthoclad Sunday #3

I think you are close to the point but missing it still bottomofthehill Sunday #4

Dems look crazy? WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #6

*IF* someone believes the D platform says "abolish prisons" then HELL YES RandomNumbers Sunday #48

Also, if that belief is out there and some D has it in their platform RandomNumbers Sunday #50

This! FalloutShelter Sunday #8

The "gifts" we keep handing the Republicans is NO PLAN Bluetus Sunday #16

Gaslighting absurdity. The fictional polling data and the claims that Democrats have "no real platform" ignores reality. QueerDuck Sunday #105

I think I was clear that I was talking about multiple generations Bluetus Sunday #107

The goalposts keep moving. QueerDuck Monday #116

Several points Bluetus Monday #119

Let's be honest here, okay? Democrats have not "sat back on 40-year-old laurels"... QueerDuck Monday #122

OK, we can disagree about how much real fight there has been versus posturing Bluetus Monday #124

The majority of that 1/3 H2O Man Sunday #18

There was a great post on here a few years ago, orthoclad Sunday #47

Do you have a link to that? Thanks n/t leftstreet Sunday #5

I don't. I saw it scroll by on Smerconish. But others do. Also, see my OP edit. nt LAS14 Sunday #68

You can find the platform here. There are 'sobering' items you did not mention. RandomNumbers Sunday #71

Look, we can't be afraid of Republicans twisting our words. We KNOW that will happen. Bluetus Sunday #7

thank you for posting this! mike_c Sunday #14

Here are countries that are largely Democratic Socialist nations Bluetus Sunday #19

if I'm not mistaken all those countries have a mix... mike_c Sunday #53

Maybe candidates should say "regulated capitalism" then. RandomNumbers Sunday #70

I'm good with that mike_c Sunday #75

Or "Level Playing-field Capitalism" Bluetus Sunday #79

That'll work. But I think RandomNumbers Sunday #82

Personally I would not use the word "regulated." It is inherently negative. Bluetus Sunday #86

Senator Warren said/says exactly that. mjvpi Sunday #101

You write of "the Democrats" and "the DSA" as if they are two entirely separate wnylib Sunday #21

That is all valid, IMHO Bluetus Sunday #27

FDR would have approved of freely crossing borders wnylib Sunday #97

You make some good points. However, in a negotiation Bluetus Sunday #108

Right? If you ask for exactly what you want Bettie Monday #117

And when you don't ask for anything at all? Bluetus Monday #121

DSA is not a party. yardwork Sunday #28

They sure aren't playing nice for being different wings of the same party MichMan Sunday #55

Wow...that is literally NOTHING like Bettie Sunday #25

To be fair to the OP Bluetus Sunday #29

Members of DSA are welcome to create any list of goals they wish. yardwork Sunday #30

And we should have goals that are not currently attainable Bettie Sunday #40

I agree. yardwork Sunday #42

Republicans can twist anything Bettie Sunday #32

+10000 Bluetus Sunday #35

Many would disagree with you. Igel Sunday #44

This message was self-deleted by its author MichMan Sunday #54

The Democratic Socialist Party isn't the Democratic Party. patphil Sunday #10

DSA is not a political party. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #12

That is true, but I bet if a survey asked voters to pick which statement they agree with more, RandomNumbers Sunday #62

. WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #76

I don't remember "defund the police" being in the official platform either RandomNumbers Sunday #78

"Defund the police means defund the police" -- as one put it, had supporters in Congress. betsuni Sunday #99

And don't forget DSA's position on "Open Borders" ... QueerDuck Sunday #102

Law and order, border -- going to be a serious problem. betsuni Sunday #104

I don't worry about Republican attack ads AZProgressive Sunday #110

"Regulated international commerce" is not what "Open Borders" means. QueerDuck Monday #112

For context and so people can have actual information to form opinions... Nanjeanne Sunday #13

DSA is not affiliated with the Democratic Party. yardwork Sunday #17

Weren't they included in the Democratic primary? MichMan Sunday #23

DSA is not a party. yardwork Sunday #26

I will be voting for every Democrat Bluetus Sunday #31

Candidates need to present what will win their election, that is (hopefully) RandomNumbers Sunday #58

Not just holding the gavel. yardwork Sunday #80

Thank you, 100% correct. RandomNumbers Sunday #83

Needs to be repeated, and false claims Dems in minority could stop Republicans if they wanted to pushed back on. betsuni Sunday #96

Completely agree. The "purity test" platforms ignore the reality of competitive districts. QueerDuck Sunday #22

Please tell me what district does NOT want Bluetus Sunday #33

I hope you will consider running for office. yardwork Sunday #34

I have a strong belief that people my age should not be deciding the future Bluetus Sunday #38

this septuagenarian agrees! mike_c Sunday #57

We have a corporate/advertising-dominated culture Bluetus Sunday #77

Those mainstream goals aren't what makes the platform fringe. QueerDuck Sunday #45

Where does it say "close all prisons" and "nationalize all industries"? Bluetus Sunday #84

Please don't gaslight me. It says it right in the official, published DSA Platform. QueerDuck Sunday #92

I take your point. So, we don't have to accept everything the DSA people wrote. Bluetus Sunday #106

I completely agree with you on the principle: the profit motive has absolutely no place in prisons or healthcare. QueerDuck Monday #115

My argument is that we would get those majorities if Bluetus Monday #118

The issue is not a lack of campaign courage; it is the gap between campaign goals and structural reality. QueerDuck Monday #120

There is EVERYTHING vague about those things Bluetus Monday #123

Trump's already there, govt owned corps adam_vermont Sunday #37

If you were sobered, may I suggest you drink more. mr715 Sunday #39

Message auto-removed Name removed Monday #113

This is simply a social democratic platform. Link here David__77 Sunday #41

Fear Cirsium Sunday #43

I'd be willing to bet The Madcap Sunday #46

If "changing ownership of large corporations to public ownership" is scarry to non-progressives I in2herbs Sunday #49

Bye orangecrush Sunday #51

Here, from their website, is the list of things they call "What We Fight For": Wiz Imp Sunday #52

This was on their website as well MichMan Sunday #56

Yep. That is correct, IMO mike_c Sunday #63

So, they are anti Democratic Party then. RandomNumbers Sunday #73

I completely disagree that they are anti-Democratic Party mike_c Sunday #85

Yes, they are. Agree with ranked choice or other. betsuni Sunday #103

Not at all. Should have never been allowed in the first place. Blue Full Moon Sunday #60

Trump.has been negotiating deals with corporations Klarkashton Sunday #61

I personally more interested in fighting the Republican Party and it's harmful affects walkingman Sunday #81

This! Vote for the Democrat in November! yardwork Sunday #87

It pisses me off that people think one person can change EVERYTHING without having help. dave99 Sunday #91

Message auto-removed Name removed Monday #114

Look at the platform of the Democrats 50 years ago - resembles the DSA platform OutNow Sunday #98

It's fascinating to read all the past D platforms Nanjeanne Sunday #100

Like I said in another thread AZProgressive Sunday #109