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In reply to the discussion: I was sobered to see some of the details of the revised DSA platform. [View all]Wiz Imp
(10,857 posts)59. It doesn't exist.
This is the DSA "political platform" as listed here:
https://precariousstate.com/dsa-political-platform/
Our Platform
Deepening and Strengthening Democracy
Abolition of the Carceral State
Abolition of White Supremacy
A Powerful Labor Movement
Economic Justice
Gender and Sexuality Justice
Green New Deal
Health Justice
Housing for All
International Solidarity and Immigration Justice
You can see it calls for the "Abolition of the Carceral State" which is not the same as calling to abolish all prisons. Here in detail is what they mean by this:
Abolition of the Carceral State
The power to create a truly democratic society is found in the organization and self-activity of the working class. The tools of our opposition, enforcing our exploitation and oppression under capitalism, are the repressive forces of the state. A vast, brutal machinery of police and prisons, security and surveillance agencies, immigration and border enforcement, courts and prosecutors all assembled to disorganize working class communities through the routine application of violence, intimidation, and coercion.
Incarceration, detention and policing are active instruments of class war which guarantee the domination of the working class and reproduce racial inequalities. The origins of policing and prisons and their present-day effects demonstrate that they are are white supremacist institutions. Yet these same institutions, in their prosecution of disproportionate violence on Black, Indigenous and other people of color, have consequences for the whole of the working class they widen divisions between people, legitimize the expansion of police power, and accelerate institutional incentives to violate and imprison millions of people.
For all of the working class to achieve collective liberation we must constrain, diminish, and abolish the carceral forces of the state from prisons and police themselves, to their manifestations in all forms throughout society. Each step forward in reducing the size, power, and authority of the repressive forces of the state expands the space for mass, organized, and collective action of the working class, and clears ground for us to build the institutions of a society to serve our communities with real justice and equality.
DSA nationally endorses the 8 to Abolition demands, which are a basis for our own.
Incarceration, detention and policing are active instruments of class war which guarantee the domination of the working class and reproduce racial inequalities. The origins of policing and prisons and their present-day effects demonstrate that they are are white supremacist institutions. Yet these same institutions, in their prosecution of disproportionate violence on Black, Indigenous and other people of color, have consequences for the whole of the working class they widen divisions between people, legitimize the expansion of police power, and accelerate institutional incentives to violate and imprison millions of people.
For all of the working class to achieve collective liberation we must constrain, diminish, and abolish the carceral forces of the state from prisons and police themselves, to their manifestations in all forms throughout society. Each step forward in reducing the size, power, and authority of the repressive forces of the state expands the space for mass, organized, and collective action of the working class, and clears ground for us to build the institutions of a society to serve our communities with real justice and equality.
DSA nationally endorses the 8 to Abolition demands, which are a basis for our own.
I assume people aare jumping on this statement:
we must constrain, diminish, and abolish the carceral forces of the state from prisons and police themselves, to their manifestations in all forms throughout society.
It should be obvious to anyone with any amount of reading comprehension that this is not the same as explicitly calling to abolish all prisons and police.
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Just makes no sense and will convince many that the Dem party is not a left party but a communist one.
efhmc
Sunday
#1
Right, I saw that part, which is a bare-ass minimum place to start. But didn't see anything about abolishing prisons.
WhiskeyGrinder
Sunday
#11
Deleted tweets are not a platform, though. The OP said it was the platform.
WhiskeyGrinder
Sunday
#24
Gaslighting absurdity. The fictional polling data and the claims that Democrats have "no real platform" ignores reality.
QueerDuck
Sunday
#105
Let's be honest here, okay? Democrats have not "sat back on 40-year-old laurels"...
QueerDuck
19 hrs ago
#122
OK, we can disagree about how much real fight there has been versus posturing
Bluetus
19 hrs ago
#124
You can find the platform here. There are 'sobering' items you did not mention.
RandomNumbers
Sunday
#71
Look, we can't be afraid of Republicans twisting our words. We KNOW that will happen.
Bluetus
Sunday
#7
That is true, but I bet if a survey asked voters to pick which statement they agree with more,
RandomNumbers
Sunday
#62
"Defund the police means defund the police" -- as one put it, had supporters in Congress.
betsuni
Sunday
#99
Candidates need to present what will win their election, that is (hopefully)
RandomNumbers
Sunday
#58
Needs to be repeated, and false claims Dems in minority could stop Republicans if they wanted to pushed back on.
betsuni
Sunday
#96
Completely agree. The "purity test" platforms ignore the reality of competitive districts.
QueerDuck
Sunday
#22
Please don't gaslight me. It says it right in the official, published DSA Platform.
QueerDuck
Sunday
#92
I completely agree with you on the principle: the profit motive has absolutely no place in prisons or healthcare.
QueerDuck
23 hrs ago
#115
The issue is not a lack of campaign courage; it is the gap between campaign goals and structural reality.
QueerDuck
19 hrs ago
#120
If "changing ownership of large corporations to public ownership" is scarry to non-progressives I
in2herbs
Sunday
#49
I personally more interested in fighting the Republican Party and it's harmful affects
walkingman
Sunday
#81