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cab67

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25. It's not necessarily a matter of politics.
Sun Jun 28, 2026, 03:48 PM
11 hrs ago

Or if it is, it doesn't necessarily have to do with the president.

Many universities are being approached by tech companies to use their AI services as an adjunct to other modes of education. These can be expensive, so universities are offered discounted "educational" rates, and administrators are being told it's the way of the future. There is thus a disconnect between some (not all) in the administration and most (though sadly not all) faculty when it comes to this sort of thing. Faculty are being encouraged to use AI, or to let students use it, in spite of the clear evidence that (a) AI is unreliable and (b) even when it's reliable, it's harmful to the educational process.

A survey was sent to us a couple of weeks ago asking how we integrate AI in our classes. My answer was very brief - I forbid its use.

The same thing happened when instructional technology first became a thing in the 1990's. I was happy to use PowerPoint for pictures because it meant I wouldn't have to sort through slides and put them away, but otherwise, I saw little use in some of the multimedia packages we were encouraged to use. All I could see was that students stopped taking notes the minute some sort of digital resource was made available. DIdn't have to be online, either - it could have been a CD-ROM that came with a textbook.

I haven't really been hit with pressure to use AI at my own institution, but I have colleagues elsewhere who have. It's about money, yes, but not necessarily about national politics.

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Most enlightening information, thank you for bringing it here for us Attilatheblond 13 hrs ago #1
Who needs higher education when you can fake your way through life. nt ImNotGod 13 hrs ago #2
As expressed by a member of... 2naSalit 12 hrs ago #9
To someone.... SergeStorms 11 hrs ago #23
There is a reason med schools don't allow take-home exams dalton99a 13 hrs ago #3
I want to know which AI tool they were using RandomNumbers 13 hrs ago #4
Those AI models you mentioned were all illegally trained on stolen intellectual property. I'm sorry highplainsdem 12 hrs ago #10
Not necessarily in the case of how I use it for work. RandomNumbers 12 hrs ago #13
Cory Doctorow teaches us what AI can and cannot use, and why most of what AI uses is not stealing intellectual property. ancianita 11 hrs ago #31
I like Cory and often agree with him, and he'd sometimes repost my comments when I was still highplainsdem 10 hrs ago #34
And btw, Cory isn't in agreement with most creators of intellectual property on copyright: highplainsdem 10 hrs ago #35
probably cuz it's a narrow subject. mopinko 12 hrs ago #12
Narrow subjects aren't necessarily immune to the problem. cab67 11 hrs ago #22
Clever prof! nt LAS14 13 hrs ago #5
universities will take the money, thus prostituting their values by bending over for trump msongs 13 hrs ago #6
It's not necessarily a matter of politics. cab67 11 hrs ago #25
And yet, certain DUers think this is just fine and we're yelling at clouds. Coventina 13 hrs ago #7
Certain DUers think using AI to cheat on exams if "just fine". Disaffected 12 hrs ago #15
thread from a few days ago Coventina 12 hrs ago #16
OK, I skimmed that thread and didn't see any posts Disaffected 12 hrs ago #18
I'm not going to call out specific people, as that is against DU TOS. Coventina 12 hrs ago #19
Sorry but I cannot draw inferences that are not there. Disaffected 11 hrs ago #20
Are you seriously making a case that coming into a thread about AI threats to Coventina 11 hrs ago #28
That's some serious goalpost moving there. Disaffected 11 hrs ago #29
This is sad and worrying. yardwork 12 hrs ago #8
it's a brilliant solution imho. mopinko 12 hrs ago #11
Yes Kaleva 12 hrs ago #14
I remember the dreaded individual oral exams administered by no-nonsense Jesuits at the end of each semester, sop 10 hrs ago #33
But they can't write cursive! Mossfern 9 hrs ago #38
Take home, closed book exams?? Disaffected 12 hrs ago #17
It's right on my syllabus. cab67 11 hrs ago #21
This gets a bit murky but, Disaffected 11 hrs ago #27
wary. cab67 11 hrs ago #30
Interesting and well put. Disaffected 9 hrs ago #36
If only.... SergeStorms 11 hrs ago #24
Just based on my reading history, El Pais is another fantastic non-US M$M outlet erronis 11 hrs ago #26
The only way to deal with this Matthew28 11 hrs ago #32
I find it fascinating... kentuck 9 hrs ago #37
Older but wiser Mossfern 9 hrs ago #39
I think that the younger generations anciano 8 hrs ago #40
This is a problem. cab67 6 hrs ago #41
See reply 42. highplainsdem 6 hrs ago #43
I guess you've missed the news stories about polls showing younger users have a lower opinion of AI highplainsdem 6 hrs ago #42
I think the appropriate and responsible use of AI anciano 6 hrs ago #44
Generative AI tools are unethical because they're illegally trained on stolen intellectual property. highplainsdem 5 hrs ago #45
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