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highplainsdem

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13. And Lance Ulanoff, editor of TechRadar and an AI fan, says this misuse of AI "broke" him:
Tue Jun 30, 2026, 06:51 PM
12 hrs ago
https://www.techradar.com/streaming/entertainment/im-an-ai-fan-but-netflixs-use-of-an-ai-generated-gene-wilder-voice-for-its-willy-wonka-reality-show-broke-me-and-weve-officially-gone-too-far

I'm an AI fan, but Netflix's use of an AI-generated Gene Wilder voice for its Willy Wonka reality show broke me — and we've officially gone too far
Opinion
By Lance Ulanoff published 4 hours ago
A golden ticket to hell

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The AI Wilder voice in this trailer is devoid of passion, pathos, or really any recognizable human emotion. It's a soulless Gene Wilder.

Look, there's no doubt the power of AI is transforming life and culture. It lets us do things we never thought possible. It's a co-worker, a companion, a sleuth, a coder, and a creator, but we are now at the point where we must ask ourselves: Just because AI can, should it?

I guess we can ask a similar question about the AI-generated Val Kilmer in the unfortunately titled As Deep as the Grave. While I can understand if Kilmer had completed some filming and they wanted to bridge the gap in scenes filmed after his death, this full-scale recreation, even with the estate's permission, seems wrong. I love these actors, but none are irreplaceable, and using their likenesses and voices simply to generate nostalgia and sell a product feels very wrong, and certainly not the best use of AI (and all the resources behind it).

Surely, we can agree that it's often better to let the dead stay dead and not try to resurrect a simulacrum of their essence through the power of AI. The results are, to be honest, rather like the work of Baron Von Frankenstein: a monstrous creation that probably has no place on earth.

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Hopefully... 2naSalit 16 hrs ago #1
Was this done in cooperation with Gene Wilder's estate? cab67 16 hrs ago #2
From the OP TheProle 16 hrs ago #3
That wasn't generative AI, which didn't exist when that film was made. AI voice generators, like highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #7
They are not 'trained'... Ohio Joe 10 hrs ago #18
They are trained. That's the term used. highplainsdem 10 hrs ago #19
Words have meanings... And you are being lied to... Ohio Joe 5 hrs ago #22
so if the wilder estate is good with it then ... ? good for them, i guess orleans 16 hrs ago #4
Your opinion counts as far as whether it's ethical. IMO it's unethical. It harms all actors if AI replacement highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #5
well, if you want to talk about AI ethics then i agree with everything you said orleans 9 hrs ago #20
I hate seeing creatives in one field using AI that rips off creatives in another field, too. The excuses highplainsdem 9 hrs ago #21
my approval or disapproval would depend heavily on context. cab67 15 hrs ago #6
johnny depp played willy wonka in a remake back in 2005. i liked johnny depp but i remember hearing orleans 10 hrs ago #17
It's not a very good recreation of his voice. imo. spanone 13 hrs ago #8
I agree. highplainsdem 12 hrs ago #14
It isn't. chowder66 11 hrs ago #16
From Consequence: highplainsdem 13 hrs ago #9
It is grotesque. Kid Berwyn 13 hrs ago #10
It's important to resist it. To make it clear AI's pretense of creativity and humanity will never be acceptable. highplainsdem 12 hrs ago #15
From Vulture (New York magazine): highplainsdem 13 hrs ago #11
The Independent: Netflix faces backlash over AI-recreated Gene Wilder voice for new Willy Wonka competition series highplainsdem 12 hrs ago #12
And Lance Ulanoff, editor of TechRadar and an AI fan, says this misuse of AI "broke" him: highplainsdem 12 hrs ago #13
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