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David__77

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9. Disgusting.

Wed Jul 1, 2026, 05:31 AM

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Politics CAN be about changing things and not just consolidating the way things are.

This is endorsement dressed up as “realism”.

Sometimes no, people (even including the elites to whom this is addressed) will actually not eat the shit sandwich.

I don’t think this is so much motivated by concern about the status quo or general human suffering as the possibility that there will indeed could be a shift in conditions that some quarters would find unfavorable to what they consider to be Israel-US interests.

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Hillary Clinton Endorses Trump's Board of Peace for Gaza [View all] Celerity Wednesday OP

The plan is another "Perpetual Money and Real Estate Machine" for those "Epstein Class" scoundrels. usonian Wednesday #1

i don't get it. why the hell is she inserting herself into this? did she HAVE to write something for the orleans Wednesday #2

The Prospect article suggests she's doing it as a favour to Tony Blair muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #15

Good grief Tony Blair favor? Nanjeanne Wednesday #22

It's a measure of the awfulness of the "Board of Peace" that Blair may be the least corrupt and RW person on it muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #28

If only the U.S. didn't put all those people in power... yardwork Wednesday #64

They're Trump's chosen board. Yes, the US is responsible for its makeup muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #67

Correct. We made our choice in November 2024. yardwork Wednesday #68

To use the famous Anglo-Saxon litotes... ananda Wednesday #65

Hillary has been speaking up quite a lot on issues lately Grim Chieftain Wednesday #70

This is edhopper Wednesday #3

depressing indeed, but not so shocking, at least for me Celerity Wednesday #4

Please wake me, I gotta be dreaming. oasis Wednesday #5

No friend, I think it's called a nightmare Grim Chieftain Wednesday #72

Hillary Clinton has been right about Trump for over a decade. yardwork Wednesday #74

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree Grim Chieftain Wednesday #76

The Financial Times op ed makes sense, calls for different control structure delisen Wednesday #75

So he bumbled into a Inkey Wednesday #6

It doesn't look like an endorsement as much as it does another hard-to-accept lesson in reality for some. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #7

Yes, of course Cirsium Wednesday #8

Your words all appear in grammatical order, but they make no sense. muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #13

But they are a tiny minority of Americans that swung the election to Trump. W_HAMILTON Wednesday #29

It seems a bit of an obsession to take a Hillary Clinton op-ed in the Financial Times muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #32

The words make sense. The same refusal to accept reality that gave us Trump is about to leave Gaza to his whims. SunSeeker Wednesday #30

Don't capitulate to Trump. muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #36

Ok, how do we achieve that? yardwork Wednesday #46

I disagree that cooperating with the Board of Peace, led for life by Trump, is the only alternative. muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #47

Who is in power now who can boycott Israel? yardwork Wednesday #48

You do the boycott yourself. You look for decent Israeli politicians yourself muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #49

My tiny little boycott of a few Israeli products is nothing. yardwork Wednesday #52

Obviously we agree we don't elect politicians who support Trump muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #55

U.S. politics is structured differently than Britain's. yardwork Wednesday #59

Boom. yardwork Wednesday #63

Who here thought "Trump was just fine?" InAbLuEsTaTe Wednesday #88

Disgusting. David__77 Wednesday #9

Your 4th paragraph. I agree. harumph Wednesday #42

My response would get me banned malaise Wednesday #10

+1 There are things I would like to say too. Emile Wednesday #16

That's where I am too Bettie Wednesday #27

Mine too!! InAbLuEsTaTe Wednesday #31

Same here PatSeg Wednesday #51

Meh! malaise Wednesday #53

Well, regarding this particular individual PatSeg Wednesday #78

Likewise. H2O Man Wednesday #77

Maybe Hillary knows more about Trump's Gaza plan than the rest of us? sop Wednesday #82

Right white supremacists Whip-poor-will Wednesday #11

I think of the 22 Democratic Senators who voted to confirm John Roberts and just cry Ponietz Wednesday #12

What a revealing list. Emile Wednesday #17

Here are the 22 Dems who voted to confirm Roberts: Celerity Wednesday #19

Bingaman greatly disappointed on this vote -- he focused his career on energy and natural resources and, get this: Ponietz Wednesday #44

Clarence Thomas was nominated by GHW Bush malaise Wednesday #20

Obama was a no mountain grammy Wednesday #23

When did HRC turn into Neville Chamberlin? no_hypocrisy Wednesday #14

Seriously. InAbLuEsTaTe Wednesday #33

Are we allowed to criticize DEMOCRAT HRC? Just wondering..... ColoringFool Wednesday #18

Will never forget it... or forgive it. InAbLuEsTaTe Wednesday #34

This message was self-deleted by its author tman Wednesday #21

Extremely disappointing. La Coliniere Wednesday #24

It's a big club, and you ain't in it. n/t flvegan Wednesday #25

As Groucho said... GJGCA Wednesday #26

"What does Goldman think?" Kid Berwyn Wednesday #35

The Epstein Class malaise Wednesday #37

Same class that looted the banks in 2008. Kid Berwyn Wednesday #38

You nailed it malaise Wednesday #39

She discussed this with David Remnick recently but all people focused on was her brief Joe Biden comments Quiet Em Wednesday #40

Thanks for this information. It saved my respect oasis Wednesday #41

You are very welcome Quiet Em Wednesday #43

Thank you. betsuni Wednesday #73

Thank you. sheshe2 Wednesday #90

I just read the entire statement and it isn't an endorsement. yardwork Wednesday #45

As usual. She's right. At this point, our choices are limited and something needs to be done. QueerDuck Wednesday #50

Thanks for summing it up succinctly. yardwork Wednesday #54

She knows the "Peace Board" can be replaced leftstreet Wednesday #56

Those who have been most critical of her for saying this, seem to be the same ones... QueerDuck Wednesday #60

Well said. yardwork Wednesday #62

The Board of Peace cannot be replaced; Trump is its head for life muriel_volestrangler Wednesday #66

Once Trump isn't president, the Board of Peace won't be especially relevant EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #85

Maybe she knows he's terminal? leftstreet Wednesday #86

Progressives vs. Democrats MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #79

Wow 😳 MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #57

I wonder if Hillary Clinton might be blinded by an assumption karynnj Wednesday #58

If you read her op-ed I think you'll see that she is not promoting hegemony. yardwork Wednesday #61

I admit I read the sections you posted after posting karynnj Wednesday #69

I don't think Clinton believes it's possible to reason with Trump. yardwork Wednesday #71

Yes it does. AloeVera Wednesday #81

For some reason this reminds me of the "facts on the ground" strategy. AloeVera Wednesday #80

Sorry, no one gets to call themselves Rob H. Wednesday #83

"Hillary Clinton endorses a Plan designed to thwart a future Palestinian state." AloeVera Wednesday #84

Sanders won't endorse the Board of Peace. ALBliberal Wednesday #87

Thinking it through, I'm giving Hill the benefit oasis Wednesday #89