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yardwork

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45. I just read the entire statement and it isn't an endorsement.
Wed Jul 1, 2026, 10:19 AM
15 hrs ago

Over and over in this op-ed Clinton states that she disagrees with most of the plan but sees absolutely no alternative at this point.

She urges the world to do something to stop the suffering and death, rather than waiting for a better plan (which is very unlikely to emerge anytime soon with Trump in the White House.)

Describing this as an endorsement makes it sound like she thinks it's a good plan. She says over and over that she does not.

I think that this misunderstanding of Clinton's message is similar to the misunderstandings she accrued during her runs for the presidency. Clinton focuses on what is possible to do now in these constrained moments. She doesn't make big promises. She doesn't throw lofty ideals down on the table and declaim her eternal constancy to those ideals alone.

Clinton is unwilling to make promises she isn't certain she can keep. She is unwilling to allow deaths and suffering to continue if there is any possible way forward, even if it is a very flawed way.

Clinton sees a humanitarian disaster in the Middle East and looks for the only possible way to stop the killings soon. Even though that plan is greatly flawed, she thinks it's the only way forward.

Representing this op-ed as an endorsement is a misrepresentation and I believe a fundamental misunderstanding of who Hillary Clinton is. She is not a natural politician. She doesn't tell people what they want to hear. Her archetype is that of the elder mother who is telling the family what they need to do in order to survive, even though they and she hate having to do it.

Jmo

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The plan is another "Perpetual Money and Real Estate Machine" for those "Epstein Class" scoundrels. usonian 23 hrs ago #1
i don't get it. why the hell is she inserting herself into this? did she HAVE to write something for the orleans 23 hrs ago #2
The Prospect article suggests she's doing it as a favour to Tony Blair muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #15
Good grief Tony Blair favor? Nanjeanne 17 hrs ago #22
It's a measure of the awfulness of the "Board of Peace" that Blair may be the least corrupt and RW person on it muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #28
If only the U.S. didn't put all those people in power... yardwork 13 hrs ago #64
They're Trump's chosen board. Yes, the US is responsible for its makeup muriel_volestrangler 13 hrs ago #67
Correct. We made our choice in November 2024. yardwork 13 hrs ago #68
To use the famous Anglo-Saxon litotes... ananda 13 hrs ago #65
Hillary has been speaking up quite a lot on issues lately Grim Chieftain 13 hrs ago #70
This is edhopper 23 hrs ago #3
depressing indeed, but not so shocking, at least for me Celerity 23 hrs ago #4
Please wake me, I gotta be dreaming. oasis 23 hrs ago #5
No friend, I think it's called a nightmare Grim Chieftain 13 hrs ago #72
Hillary Clinton has been right about Trump for over a decade. yardwork 12 hrs ago #74
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree Grim Chieftain 12 hrs ago #76
The Financial Times op ed makes sense, calls for different control structure delisen 12 hrs ago #75
So he bumbled into a Inkey 22 hrs ago #6
It doesn't look like an endorsement as much as it does another hard-to-accept lesson in reality for some. W_HAMILTON 22 hrs ago #7
Yes, of course Cirsium 22 hrs ago #8
Your words all appear in grammatical order, but they make no sense. muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #13
But they are a tiny minority of Americans that swung the election to Trump. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #29
It seems a bit of an obsession to take a Hillary Clinton op-ed in the Financial Times muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #32
The words make sense. The same refusal to accept reality that gave us Trump is about to leave Gaza to his whims. SunSeeker 16 hrs ago #30
Don't capitulate to Trump. muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #36
Ok, how do we achieve that? yardwork 15 hrs ago #46
I disagree that cooperating with the Board of Peace, led for life by Trump, is the only alternative. muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #47
Who is in power now who can boycott Israel? yardwork 14 hrs ago #48
You do the boycott yourself. You look for decent Israeli politicians yourself muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #49
My tiny little boycott of a few Israeli products is nothing. yardwork 14 hrs ago #52
Obviously we agree we don't elect politicians who support Trump muriel_volestrangler 14 hrs ago #55
U.S. politics is structured differently than Britain's. yardwork 13 hrs ago #59
Boom. yardwork 13 hrs ago #63
Who here thought "Trump was just fine?" InAbLuEsTaTe 8 hrs ago #88
Disgusting. David__77 20 hrs ago #9
Your 4th paragraph. I agree. harumph 15 hrs ago #42
My response would get me banned malaise 19 hrs ago #10
+1 There are things I would like to say too. Emile 18 hrs ago #16
That's where I am too Bettie 16 hrs ago #27
Mine too!! InAbLuEsTaTe 16 hrs ago #31
Same here PatSeg 14 hrs ago #51
Meh! malaise 14 hrs ago #53
Well, regarding this particular individual PatSeg 12 hrs ago #78
Likewise. H2O Man 12 hrs ago #77
Maybe Hillary knows more about Trump's Gaza plan than the rest of us? sop 12 hrs ago #82
Right white supremacists Whip-poor-will 19 hrs ago #11
I think of the 22 Democratic Senators who voted to confirm John Roberts and just cry Ponietz 19 hrs ago #12
What a revealing list. Emile 18 hrs ago #17
Here are the 22 Dems who voted to confirm Roberts: Celerity 18 hrs ago #19
Bingaman greatly disappointed on this vote -- he focused his career on energy and natural resources and, get this: Ponietz 15 hrs ago #44
Clarence Thomas was nominated by GHW Bush malaise 17 hrs ago #20
Obama was a no mountain grammy 17 hrs ago #23
When did HRC turn into Neville Chamberlin? no_hypocrisy 18 hrs ago #14
Seriously. InAbLuEsTaTe 16 hrs ago #33
Are we allowed to criticize DEMOCRAT HRC? Just wondering..... ColoringFool 18 hrs ago #18
Will never forget it... or forgive it. InAbLuEsTaTe 16 hrs ago #34
This message was self-deleted by its author tman 17 hrs ago #21
Extremely disappointing. La Coliniere 16 hrs ago #24
It's a big club, and you ain't in it. n/t flvegan 16 hrs ago #25
As Groucho said... GJGCA 16 hrs ago #26
"What does Goldman think?" Kid Berwyn 16 hrs ago #35
The Epstein Class malaise 15 hrs ago #37
Same class that looted the banks in 2008. Kid Berwyn 15 hrs ago #38
You nailed it malaise 15 hrs ago #39
She discussed this with David Remnick recently but all people focused on was her brief Joe Biden comments Quiet Em 15 hrs ago #40
Thanks for this information. It saved my respect oasis 15 hrs ago #41
You are very welcome Quiet Em 15 hrs ago #43
Thank you. betsuni 12 hrs ago #73
Thank you. sheshe2 4 hrs ago #90
I just read the entire statement and it isn't an endorsement. yardwork 15 hrs ago #45
As usual. She's right. At this point, our choices are limited and something needs to be done. QueerDuck 14 hrs ago #50
Thanks for summing it up succinctly. yardwork 14 hrs ago #54
She knows the "Peace Board" can be replaced leftstreet 14 hrs ago #56
Those who have been most critical of her for saying this, seem to be the same ones... QueerDuck 13 hrs ago #60
Well said. yardwork 13 hrs ago #62
The Board of Peace cannot be replaced; Trump is its head for life muriel_volestrangler 13 hrs ago #66
Once Trump isn't president, the Board of Peace won't be especially relevant EdmondDantes_ 11 hrs ago #85
Maybe she knows he's terminal? leftstreet 11 hrs ago #86
Progressives vs. Democrats MorbidButterflyTat 12 hrs ago #79
Wow 😳 MustLoveBeagles 14 hrs ago #57
I wonder if Hillary Clinton might be blinded by an assumption karynnj 14 hrs ago #58
If you read her op-ed I think you'll see that she is not promoting hegemony. yardwork 13 hrs ago #61
I admit I read the sections you posted after posting karynnj 13 hrs ago #69
I don't think Clinton believes it's possible to reason with Trump. yardwork 13 hrs ago #71
Yes it does. AloeVera 12 hrs ago #81
For some reason this reminds me of the "facts on the ground" strategy. AloeVera 12 hrs ago #80
Sorry, no one gets to call themselves Rob H. 12 hrs ago #83
"Hillary Clinton endorses a Plan designed to thwart a future Palestinian state." AloeVera 12 hrs ago #84
Sanders won't endorse the Board of Peace. ALBliberal 11 hrs ago #87
Thinking it through, I'm giving Hill the benefit oasis 6 hrs ago #89
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