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karynnj

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58. I wonder if Hillary Clinton might be blinded by an assumption

Wed Jul 1, 2026, 11:28 AM

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that the US is THE exceptional country. It may be that between the Arab League and countries like France there could be another plan.

I also question if the plan is viable. It was suppose to move quickly between the early stages and, in fact, hasn't. Fighting and bombing continues in spite of everyone saying there is a ceasefire. The area controlled by Israel has slowly expanded.

This plan, in conjunction with the ever expanding settlements in the West Bank and talk of annexation, eliminates any possibility of a Palestinian state ever existing.

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Hillary Clinton Endorses Trump's Board of Peace for Gaza [View all] Celerity 15 hrs ago OP

The plan is another "Perpetual Money and Real Estate Machine" for those "Epstein Class" scoundrels. usonian 14 hrs ago #1

i don't get it. why the hell is she inserting herself into this? did she HAVE to write something for the orleans 14 hrs ago #2

The Prospect article suggests she's doing it as a favour to Tony Blair muriel_volestrangler 9 hrs ago #15

Good grief Tony Blair favor? Nanjeanne 8 hrs ago #22

It's a measure of the awfulness of the "Board of Peace" that Blair may be the least corrupt and RW person on it muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #28

If only the U.S. didn't put all those people in power... yardwork 4 hrs ago #64

They're Trump's chosen board. Yes, the US is responsible for its makeup muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago #67

Correct. We made our choice in November 2024. yardwork 4 hrs ago #68

To use the famous Anglo-Saxon litotes... ananda 4 hrs ago #65

Hillary has been speaking up quite a lot on issues lately Grim Chieftain 4 hrs ago #70

This is edhopper 14 hrs ago #3

depressing indeed, but not so shocking, at least for me Celerity 14 hrs ago #4

Please wake me, I gotta be dreaming. oasis 14 hrs ago #5

No friend, I think it's called a nightmare Grim Chieftain 4 hrs ago #72

Hillary Clinton has been right about Trump for over a decade. yardwork 4 hrs ago #74

Well, we'll have to agree to disagree Grim Chieftain 3 hrs ago #76

The Financial Times op ed makes sense, calls for different control structure delisen 4 hrs ago #75

So he bumbled into a Inkey 13 hrs ago #6

It doesn't look like an endorsement as much as it does another hard-to-accept lesson in reality for some. W_HAMILTON 13 hrs ago #7

Yes, of course Cirsium 13 hrs ago #8

Your words all appear in grammatical order, but they make no sense. muriel_volestrangler 10 hrs ago #13

But they are a tiny minority of Americans that swung the election to Trump. W_HAMILTON 7 hrs ago #29

It seems a bit of an obsession to take a Hillary Clinton op-ed in the Financial Times muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #32

The words make sense. The same refusal to accept reality that gave us Trump is about to leave Gaza to his whims. SunSeeker 7 hrs ago #30

Don't capitulate to Trump. muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #36

Ok, how do we achieve that? yardwork 6 hrs ago #46

I disagree that cooperating with the Board of Peace, led for life by Trump, is the only alternative. muriel_volestrangler 6 hrs ago #47

Who is in power now who can boycott Israel? yardwork 6 hrs ago #48

You do the boycott yourself. You look for decent Israeli politicians yourself muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #49

My tiny little boycott of a few Israeli products is nothing. yardwork 5 hrs ago #52

Obviously we agree we don't elect politicians who support Trump muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #55

U.S. politics is structured differently than Britain's. yardwork 5 hrs ago #59

Boom. yardwork 4 hrs ago #63

Disgusting. David__77 11 hrs ago #9

Your 4th paragraph. I agree. harumph 6 hrs ago #42

My response would get me banned malaise 11 hrs ago #10

+1 There are things I would like to say too. Emile 9 hrs ago #16

That's where I am too Bettie 7 hrs ago #27

Mine too!! InAbLuEsTaTe 7 hrs ago #31

Same here PatSeg 5 hrs ago #51

Meh! malaise 5 hrs ago #53

Well, regarding this particular individual PatSeg 3 hrs ago #78

Likewise. H2O Man 3 hrs ago #77

Maybe Hillary knows more about Trump's Gaza plan than the rest of us? sop 3 hrs ago #82

Right white supremacists Whip-poor-will 10 hrs ago #11

I think of the 22 Democratic Senators who voted to confirm John Roberts and just cry Ponietz 10 hrs ago #12

What a revealing list. Emile 9 hrs ago #17

Here are the 22 Dems who voted to confirm Roberts: Celerity 9 hrs ago #19

Bingaman greatly disappointed on this vote -- he focused his career on energy and natural resources and, get this: Ponietz 6 hrs ago #44

Clarence Thomas was nominated by GHW Bush malaise 9 hrs ago #20

Obama was a no mountain grammy 8 hrs ago #23

When did HRC turn into Neville Chamberlin? no_hypocrisy 9 hrs ago #14

Seriously. InAbLuEsTaTe 7 hrs ago #33

Are we allowed to criticize DEMOCRAT HRC? Just wondering..... ColoringFool 9 hrs ago #18

Will never forget it... or forgive it. InAbLuEsTaTe 7 hrs ago #34

This message was self-deleted by its author tman 8 hrs ago #21

Extremely disappointing. La Coliniere 8 hrs ago #24

It's a big club, and you ain't in it. n/t flvegan 7 hrs ago #25

As Groucho said... GJGCA 7 hrs ago #26

"What does Goldman think?" Kid Berwyn 7 hrs ago #35

The Epstein Class malaise 7 hrs ago #37

Same class that looted the banks in 2008. Kid Berwyn 6 hrs ago #38

You nailed it malaise 6 hrs ago #39

She discussed this with David Remnick recently but all people focused on was her brief Joe Biden comments Quiet Em 6 hrs ago #40

Thanks for this information. It saved my respect oasis 6 hrs ago #41

You are very welcome Quiet Em 6 hrs ago #43

Thank you. betsuni 4 hrs ago #73

I just read the entire statement and it isn't an endorsement. yardwork 6 hrs ago #45

As usual. She's right. At this point, our choices are limited and something needs to be done. QueerDuck 5 hrs ago #50

Thanks for summing it up succinctly. yardwork 5 hrs ago #54

She knows the "Peace Board" can be replaced leftstreet 5 hrs ago #56

Those who have been most critical of her for saying this, seem to be the same ones... QueerDuck 4 hrs ago #60

Well said. yardwork 4 hrs ago #62

The Board of Peace cannot be replaced; Trump is its head for life muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago #66

Once Trump isn't president, the Board of Peace won't be especially relevant EdmondDantes_ 3 hrs ago #85

Maybe she knows he's terminal? leftstreet 2 hrs ago #86

Progressives vs. Democrats MorbidButterflyTat 3 hrs ago #79

Wow 😳 MustLoveBeagles 5 hrs ago #57

I wonder if Hillary Clinton might be blinded by an assumption karynnj 5 hrs ago #58

If you read her op-ed I think you'll see that she is not promoting hegemony. yardwork 4 hrs ago #61

I admit I read the sections you posted after posting karynnj 4 hrs ago #69

I don't think Clinton believes it's possible to reason with Trump. yardwork 4 hrs ago #71

Yes it does. AloeVera 3 hrs ago #81

For some reason this reminds me of the "facts on the ground" strategy. AloeVera 3 hrs ago #80

Sorry, no one gets to call themselves Rob H. 3 hrs ago #83

"Hillary Clinton endorses a Plan designed to thwart a future Palestinian state." AloeVera 3 hrs ago #84

Sanders won't endorse the Board of Peace. ALBliberal 2 hrs ago #87