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Farmer-Rick

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25. I don't believe in capitalism

Mon Jul 6, 2026, 11:09 AM

11 hrs ago

I would never tell a MAGAT that I believed in capitalism. I believe that form of economics exists but it is a destructive form of economics that consolidates wealth, in the already rich. Capitalism forces most people to live with poverty level resources.

It's just as destructive as feudalism and slavery. In fact, capitalism works quite well with feudalism and slavery.

Like we evolved past feudalism, we need to evolve past capitalism. It's a destructive force for evil. It's what really caused WWII.

But I would never talk to a MAGAT about economics, it's a waste of effort. They are too stupid to have coherent thoughts. It's all about feelings for them...mostly hate....not about facts.

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How to handle the Democrat equals Communist Bull Shit: [View all] Chasstev365 13 hrs ago OP

the proud boys will not be at our doors to discuss graduate school philosophy rampartd 12 hrs ago #1

lol - grad school philosophy? TBF 11 hrs ago #23

The response was about likelihood of an academic discussion with Proud Boys and MAGAts Roy Rolling 6 hrs ago #94

The point was the content, not the reading level. nt TBF 5 hrs ago #95

But only in groups! enigmania 2 hrs ago #103

When talking to the immature, one must speak at their level. liberal N proud 1 hr ago #104

I thought dems were socialist? Now we are communists? Do they know ,? Srkdqltr 12 hrs ago #2

i got called a communist pinko pig in high school by my rop instructor. i wear thatt badge proudly!!!!!! AllaN01Bear 10 hrs ago #40

There isn't a Republican alive who knows the damn difference anymore, if they ever did. They've been pushing this shit Karasu 5 hrs ago #96

Yes i know. Srkdqltr 5 hrs ago #99

I have heard MAGAts use them together describing Democrats liberal N proud 1 hr ago #105

Exactly! LakeVermilion 12 hrs ago #3

"I'm becoming a believer in a flat income tax rate for everyone with no deductions." MichMan 11 hrs ago #12

You'd be surprised what the "investor class" - TBF 11 hrs ago #24

I'm in. Joinfortmill 10 hrs ago #34

The rich typically have little "income" as it is defined in the tax code. harumph 11 hrs ago #15

This is exactly why we need and must implement a wealth tax in place of the income tax... Moostache 10 hrs ago #35

I could not have elaborated on this better. harumph 10 hrs ago #41

How would total wealth be calculated? MichMan 9 hrs ago #65

First off you'd need to define "wealth" - TBF 8 hrs ago #75

So, we don't want people to associate Democrat with Communist, but reference the writings of Karl Marx ? MichMan 8 hrs ago #76

Lol - I have never disparaged Marx - that's all you TBF 8 hrs ago #77

Marx correctly diagnosed a problem - even though the proposed cure was no good. harumph 8 hrs ago #80

I'd be happy with simply going after financial assets. KPN 5 hrs ago #97

Excellent summary of where we're at. nt TBF 9 hrs ago #73

hence "the rich need to pay their fair share in taxes" Skittles 8 hrs ago #86

A flat tax harms the poorest of us the most Bettie 9 hrs ago #56

100%. nt TBF 8 hrs ago #85

I don't think it's anything to get worked up about Kaleva 12 hrs ago #4

Even fewer know what an oligarch is. MichMan 9 hrs ago #53

With probably little effect Kaleva 9 hrs ago #71

If you are explaining why you aren't a communist, you are losing. gab13by13 12 hrs ago #5

So let Fox the GOP give you a label and do nothing so it sticks with idiot voters Chasstev365 12 hrs ago #9

I'm a Democrat, I support Democrats gab13by13 8 hrs ago #79

Calling them idiots and ignoring them hasn't exactly been working for the past 30 years either. meadowlander 7 hrs ago #93

Personally, I would just LMAO..... lastlib 12 hrs ago #6

Simple explanation: There are some things we can agree to share the cost of - Ocelot II 12 hrs ago #7

We currently have all of that under the current status quo MichMan 9 hrs ago #52

Yes, but the whole point is to avoid calling any of it socialism, Ocelot II 7 hrs ago #91

I'm not a pedophile! (Logic and discussion are cbabe 12 hrs ago #8

Easier: "Define communist/communism". No? Bye." niyad 11 hrs ago #10

Exactly. He who's explaining and defining... is losing. QueerDuck 9 hrs ago #67

Actually, that was not what I meant at all. When someone uses those niyad 3 hrs ago #100

Yes. My point was to agree with you... that Democrats (or liberals, or progressives) should... QueerDuck 3 hrs ago #102

Not afraid of Randall (republicans) anymore Blue Full Moon 11 hrs ago #11

I say they've only won 3 primaries out of the whole country creeksneakers2 11 hrs ago #13

But they are using a handful of candidates who call themselves socialists. SamuelAdams 11 hrs ago #14

They call themselves Democratic Socialists, not Socialists Wiz Imp 11 hrs ago #18

lol - they'll just come up with something else to call them TBF 11 hrs ago #26

The upcoming general election will pit candidates with an "R" behind their name against candidates with a "D"... Escape 11 hrs ago #16

Don't say New Deal SocialDemocrat61 11 hrs ago #17

I always say I like the Nordic model. That usually shuts them up. Joinfortmill 10 hrs ago #36

Nordic? SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #42

Oh, for heaven sakes. Joinfortmill 9 hrs ago #54

Shouldn't we recognize SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #58

I'm talking about the economic sytem... Joinfortmill 9 hrs ago #64

And the term Nordic SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #68

I didn't create the name. It can be used to develop a basis Joinfortmill 9 hrs ago #69

So why shouldn't we come up with a better SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #72

Editorial or a cite? Torchlight 9 hrs ago #59

Both and neither SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #60

Editorial. Torchlight 9 hrs ago #61

Yes, SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #62

Or anyone else under 100 years old. BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #82

It really should not be hard to show people why they should be way more afraid of billionaires and... Ol Janx Spirit 11 hrs ago #19

Sounds good in theory BUT, Dave Id 11 hrs ago #20

Agree. When someone refuses to accept basic facts and reality, there spooky3 10 hrs ago #31

How about this angle MoseShrute 11 hrs ago #21

Given current beef, coffee and gas prices Torchlight 11 hrs ago #22

I don't believe in capitalism Farmer-Rick 11 hrs ago #25

Exactly capitalism needs poor people in order for that system to exist Alpeduez21 10 hrs ago #29

Gee, there are some capitalist countries out there with robust safety nets... harumph 7 hrs ago #90

Exactly right. Those countries have the "safety nets" but very few folks are falling into them. FadedMullet 3 hrs ago #101

Maybe the Dems in charge could get on board with the reality that socialist Dems are what the voters want Alpeduez21 10 hrs ago #27

Communism for billionaires keeps the oligarchs afloat bucolic_frolic 10 hrs ago #28

"In Communism, the government owns businesses (the means of spooky3 10 hrs ago #30

A 5th Grader could look up and understand the definition of "communist" William Seger 10 hrs ago #32

I like it. Short and simple. Even these bums can get it. Joinfortmill 10 hrs ago #33

Actually just let him ramble Blue Full Moon 10 hrs ago #37

Stop telling people you are a socialist Boo1 10 hrs ago #38

Way Simpler ProfessorGAC 10 hrs ago #39

Nope. Being affirmative with an unassailable label... reACTIONary 10 hrs ago #46

Nope - What I Said Is Not A Denial ProfessorGAC 9 hrs ago #63

What about both? The accusations about communists are stupid lies..... reACTIONary 8 hrs ago #74

That's Pretty Good ProfessorGAC 8 hrs ago #78

How defensive. That's a losing approach. David__77 10 hrs ago #43

As opposed to what? What would your approach be? reACTIONary 10 hrs ago #47

Go on the attack on something else. David__77 8 hrs ago #83

So, do a "pivot" to avoid .... reACTIONary 8 hrs ago #87

Yes he wants to play word games instead of talking about material issues David__77 8 hrs ago #88

Excellent! Avoid the socialist smear.... reACTIONary 10 hrs ago #44

No Cirsium 10 hrs ago #45

Found this on Facebook catbyte 10 hrs ago #48

Time to call Trump/GOP Nazis DemocracyForever 10 hrs ago #49

Great advice, totally logical and reasonable. But MAGAts will never accept the Democrats aren't communists because Martin68 10 hrs ago #50

Hand them a dictionary? krawhitham 10 hrs ago #51

We also need to attack: Here are three reasons why we say the Republican Party has been taken over by fascists... Doodley 9 hrs ago #55

Dem counties produce 70% of US economy. GOP counties contribute just 29%. blm 9 hrs ago #57

Keep it simple Blumancru 9 hrs ago #66

You're going to be a "communist" to them no matter what you say ck4829 9 hrs ago #70

This. Been that way for like 80 years. Why are people acting like this is news? This is the oldest trick in the book. Karasu 5 hrs ago #98

Jesus H Christ BannonsLiver 8 hrs ago #81

also add... mdbl 8 hrs ago #84

Basically a Democratic Capitalist. hadEnuf 8 hrs ago #89

Stay clear of Party for Socialism and Liberation. They are the communist party and trying infiltrate the LeftInTX 7 hrs ago #92