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67. "If this can be believed"

Mon Jul 6, 2026, 07:59 PM

Jul 6

He flat out denies it. She has provided some evidence that is insufficient on its own, but certainly bears further investigation.

It is possible that both are telling the truth from their own perspectives.

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Good riddance to men who sexually assault women. [View all] milestogo Jul 6 OP

Nonsense bucolic_frolic Jul 6 #1

* Only if they're Republicans. BannonsLiver Jul 6 #7

You got me bucolic_frolic Jul 6 #45

Hopefully, providing that there is some verifiable evidence... -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #2

Oh puh-leeze... milestogo Jul 6 #3

Quantity isn't quality -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #4

And if this were happening to men instead of women we wouldn't even be having this discussion. milestogo Jul 6 #5

You're saying no evidence is required from women making this claim? live love laugh Jul 6 #12

I neither trust nor believe men or women based on their gender -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #19

Throughout history men have been easily believed milestogo Jul 7 #153

Well, you let me know if that happens here, will you? -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #158

It happens here on DU every day. milestogo Jul 7 #163

Then why put up with it? -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #165

I make liberal use of the 'ignore' tool. milestogo Jul 7 #166

I wonder if I can copyright my DNA? lol -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #172

Got your head in the sand, eh? It's okay if it's a Republican, but we need proof for a Dem? mucholderthandirt Wednesday #194

No one said anything about witnesses or cameras -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #23

To prove something in a court of law you need evidence. milestogo Jul 6 #26

I agree it can be difficult to prove -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #31

And FYI- attempted rapes are usually not prosecuted. milestogo Jul 6 #51

I know. -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #60

My daughter went to the hospital Lifeafter70 Jul 6 #82

I'm so sorry for what your daughter went through mcar Jul 6 #85

The authorities were upset with her because she couldn't do it. Lifeafter70 Jul 6 #88

First, my heart goes out to your daughter -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #86

This happened at work Lifeafter70 Jul 6 #90

actually they are North Coast Lawyer Jul 7 #149

For every 1000 sexual assaults milestogo Jul 7 #161

BS Data North Coast Lawyer Wednesday #197

Believe no one. North Coast Lawyer Jul 7 #150

Did she go to a hospital and claim rape and there are the results of the rape kit as evidence? CozyMystery Jul 7 #164

There is evidence. SamuelAdams Jul 6 #10

Do you a link for that or a source article on those emails, I can't find one. Thanks. nt blue_jay Jul 6 #15

The politico article that started today's avalanche of calls to resign Ms. Toad Jul 7 #109

Thanks blue_jay Jul 7 #143

You're talking about a specific case -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #18

Yes wern't most of the first batch of accusations, IbogaProject Jul 6 #25

No idea -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #28

No obamanut2012 Jul 6 #30

No. Try again mcar Jul 6 #80

Wow. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 6 #37

You can let go of the pearls -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #38

Oh, really? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 6 #94

What things seem to you is of no consequence to anyone but you -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #96

She could be cashing a nice, Republican check. Ever thought about that? paleotn Jul 6 #43

Prove it. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 6 #92

We could say the same of the accusations, prove it questionseverything Jul 7 #160

That's all the rape apologists have been saying MorbidButterflyTat Jul 7 #170

He has not been convicted but there is sufficient evidence and doubt about his story that Wonder Why Jul 6 #100

The matter at hand is not convicting a man whopis01 Jul 7 #136

It's a fair and reasonable POV -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #137

The system and timing left them out, not me. whopis01 Jul 7 #138

That happens -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #139

I'll make a prediction about this whopis01 Jul 7 #173

Yeah, I remember when [Redacted]'s... -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #178

You are missing a glaringly obvious fact whopis01 Jul 7 #179

You are missing an even more obvious and glaring fact -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #180

You certainly have lost me at this point whopis01 Jul 7 #183

What I'm saying is the enough independents -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #185

You'd stay in the race with no money, no staff, no campaign volunteers, no endorsements, no support Quiet Em Jul 7 #181

Yes, I would -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #182

The goal is to elect a Democrat, not Susan Collins Quiet Em Jul 7 #184

Exactly -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #186

That won't happen if Planter refuses to drop out. Quiet Em Jul 7 #187

Who is this magical candidate that is going to do better -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #188

I don't know but it's not him. Quiet Em Jul 7 #189

I strongly suggest that you acquaint yourself with the actual statistics niyad Jul 6 #57

You should indeed be shaking your head -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #62

Yet, by your statements, every woman who makes a report is niyad Jul 6 #65

Nonsense -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #70

You have made yourself perfectly clear. niyad Jul 6 #71

Good -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #73

As I said, perfectly clear. niyad Jul 6 #74

And you got in the last word -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #75

I truly hope that there are no women iin your life who would hope for niyad Jul 7 #128

So dramatic! -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #146

Dramatic? wow, sounds like I touched a nerve there. niyad Jul 7 #162

Well, you changed the topic from Platner to me -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #167

They sure have. SMDH mcar Jul 6 #83

Crystal. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 6 #95

The woman's testimony is evidence iemanja Jul 7 #133

She has messages to a woman mentioning it from dsc Jul 6 #66

Glad you asked -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #68

We, and they, have had this woman's name for a month dsc Jul 6 #69

Great. -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #72

I hear, but there are often no witnesses, believe me, I know. Joinfortmill Jul 7 #112

That's what makes it difficult -misanthroptimist Jul 7 #113

Mike Tyson's rape case also had no hard evidence Polybius Jul 7 #117

Obviously, there was MorbidButterflyTat Jul 7 #140

Conviction doesn't always mean proof Polybius Jul 7 #175

What?? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 7 #176

That's not what I said Polybius Jul 7 #177

Oh, yeah? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 7 #190

Ouch! Polybius Wednesday #195

You tell me. Exactly how many? -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #39

I think it depends on the man. milestogo Jul 6 #46

And therein lies a problem -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #64

"the same accusation made by multiple people" milestogo Jul 6 #79

Too Much Deference to Platner Starbeach Jul 6 #50

He is apparently receiving around 4k/month VA disability. But, as I niyad Jul 6 #87

You mean people associated with republicans ? Or just any old body? BComplex Jul 7 #121

What's that supposed to prove? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 7 #141

Yes, it came out that the first accuser was a republican who worked on the Susan BComplex Wednesday #196

Politico (who broke the story) said that they reviewed documents. lapucelle Jul 6 #29

Her account of the episode. lapucelle Jul 6 #35

But some here need way more details mcar Jul 6 #84

I hear you. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 6 #103

Thanks mcar Jul 6 #104

I'm sorry, I find the whole story a bit unbelievable. infullview Jul 7 #120

"this woman could be mentally ill" milestogo Jul 7 #122

It happens. I had a woman stalker. infullview Jul 7 #123

And did she publicly accuse you of rape? milestogo Jul 7 #130

No, Fortunately, but it was scary. infullview Jul 7 #131

It was scary??? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 7 #144

Pretty amazing default response. lapucelle Jul 7 #129

The operative word there was "allegedly" infullview Jul 7 #134

Nah, the operative words are "snuck into her house and assaulted her". lapucelle Jul 7 #135

Careful there. That might cause potential Republican propaganda not to work. paleotn Jul 6 #42

MAGA feel the same exact way about their pervert in chief. Raftergirl Jul 6 #89

Words in frustration. My original post. paleotn Jul 6 #91

Nope. I may not always love a candidate, but I would never vote for a rapist. That is not something one Raftergirl Jul 6 #97

I agree, that is beyond the pale. paleotn Jul 6 #102

If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Raftergirl Jul 6 #105

Apparently there are emails between her and her therapist synni Jul 6 #63

"If this can be believed" -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #67

This guy MorbidButterflyTat Jul 6 #98

Agreed on all counts. :) -misanthroptimist Jul 6 #99

I'm so sick of it PatSeg Jul 6 #6

Apparently. milestogo Jul 6 #8

Yes and that is why campaigns usually PatSeg Jul 6 #13

Maybe he didn't think anything he did was wrong MorbidButterflyTat Jul 6 #14

I was working for a candidate and a story came out milestogo Jul 6 #20

Yes and that's actually worse PatSeg Jul 6 #55

or run as a repuke Skittles Jul 6 #33

Men who do this believe that most men do this, and Maru Kitteh Jul 6 #40

Probably true PatSeg Jul 6 #58

The gentleman had some questionable behavior in the past Keepthesoulalive Jul 6 #21

he's a straight white man Skittles Jul 6 #34

I'm seeing some posts implying if republicans vote for scum Keepthesoulalive Jul 6 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jul 6 #9

The stuff is hitting the fan. Jacson6 Jul 6 #11

Good riddance to bad rubbish. Raftergirl Jul 6 #16

THANK YOU Skittles Jul 6 #17

Or they can switch to the GOP and get elected to the highest offices, i.e. president, SCOTUS. Katinfl Jul 6 #22

yup Skittles Jul 6 #36

This can cure the problem. twodogsbarking Jul 6 #24

Thank You! Innocent Smith Jul 6 #27

+1000! mcar Jul 6 #32

Susan Collins sends her thanks! She doesn't know what she'd do without Dems doing her work for her. paleotn Jul 6 #44

Aww, bless your heart mcar Jul 6 #93

First off, he's not my guy. paleotn Jul 6 #101

On the slightest pretext? Credible accusation of rape, mcar Jul 7 #118

People always forget to add "...and worked for Blackwater in Afghanistan"....after he got out of the military EX500rider Jul 7 #168

The list is that long. Why was it all ignored? mcar Jul 7 #169

It's sickening. MorbidButterflyTat Jul 6 #52

x 1000 RockCreek Jul 6 #78

Apparently "Believe all women" was just a soundbite MichMan Jul 6 #76

The Maine Democratic Party calls on Graham Planter to drop out of the Senate race. LetMyPeopleVote Jul 6 #47

My aunt was nearly murdered by her wacko husband Just_Vote_Dem Jul 6 #48

So another 6 years of Collins? The Supreme Court appointments she supported did more damage to 3Hotdogs Jul 6 #49

Yep, 6 more years of Collins, 6 more years of repub majorities questionseverything Jul 7 #171

Purge the scumbags. Dave Bowman Jul 6 #53

Perfect is the enemy of good. Bobstandard Jul 6 #54

This is EXACTLY why I felt he should have been dropped the first time. jmbar2 Jul 6 #56

This bad publicity impacts on all Democrat candidates. That is why he should go, not the assumption of guilt, but we Doodley Jul 6 #59

Winning at any cost warmfeet Jul 6 #61

Doesn't seem to matter to Republican pedophiles and their President. live love laugh Jul 6 #107

Guess the tent is bigger than I imagined. WinningAgain Jul 6 #77

100x WarGamer Jul 6 #81

Kick red dog 1 Jul 6 #106

+1000 applegrove Jul 7 #108

I don't think Platner assaulted anyone f64PTjmtR Jul 7 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author Stacey Grove Jul 7 #111

Why? mcar Jul 7 #119

So, you are saying all the evidence, actual evidence is false? obamanut2012 Jul 7 #124

I'm amazed that when a Democrat leads, things like this come out. AZLD4Candidate Jul 7 #114

Why are you amazed that a walking red flag with prior accusations is rapey? obamanut2012 Jul 7 #125

And fuck the rape apologists. n/t demmiblue Jul 7 #115

No kidding. When did we start supporting SA abusers, to get votes. WinningAgain Jul 7 #116

I may leave DU over this obamanut2012 Jul 7 #126

Understandable. niyad Jul 7 #127

I can see you're going through it Sympthsical Jul 7 #132

Thank you obamanut2012 Jul 7 #151

I know, I'm so sorry MorbidButterflyTat Jul 7 #145

How to say you're a corporate Dem w/o saying you're a corporate Dem MakeThemCry Jul 7 #142

Zero credible rape accusations against Clinton -- HEY MIRT obamanut2012 Jul 7 #152

This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist Jul 7 #191

So I guess we should all agree that Hearn was guilty of tearing up the Reflecting pool. Bengus81 Jul 7 #147

Wow -- calling two liars is certainly a stance to take, and your minimizing rape is a worse look obamanut2012 Jul 7 #154

The woman worked for Susan Collins. This makes me worry this might be another Al Franken type situation. With diane in sf Jul 7 #148

Wait the latest accuser worked for Collins? BannonsLiver Jul 7 #155

No. LisaL Jul 7 #174

"Conservative Democrats" MorbidButterflyTat Jul 7 #159

How he thought he could get away with his past in Klarkashton Jul 7 #156

White male privilege and arrogance. milestogo Jul 7 #157

I think he's staying in MerryBlooms Wednesday #192

This message was self-deleted by its author Abolishinist Wednesday #193