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JCanete

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31. I think Sanders has taken the stance that trying to get the water
Sat May 13, 2017, 02:59 PM
May 2017

and fish and flotsam, etc. out of the boat without acknowledging the huge gaping hole in the hull, is a futile proposition of all hands on deck continuously scooping up buckets and pouring it over the side. Women's issues, immigrant issues, crime, drugs, etc. all come back to money, either because these issues are powerful distractions(powerful because they have real consequences) over which both parties then focus a large portion of their rhetoric, or because there is a more direct financial incentive to sell certain narratives.

I would agree. Money in politics IS the biggest issue because it is arresting our ability to make progress on any of these other fronts. I would not agree with him that he should have endorsed Mello, for the very reasons that we've seen happen post endorsement, and I think it was a foolish misstep to make his own actions more divisive among the Democratic base.

I don't know that there's inconsistency here, because these candidates, Mello and Pariello, have both pledged(in spite of their previous records) not to vote to do harm to women's rights(although I understand being more than wary about this) , but also because money in politics is again, a huge root of the regressiveness that makes it hard for us to move forward on these very issues.

As for Manchin, if he literally votes for a Supreme Court justice like Gorsuch, what is he good for? If he can't stand up and maintain a vote to keep someone like that off the Supreme Court, how is he working for his constituents? He may be pandering to them, but he's still screwing them. What's left that we can maybe count on him to do, assuming we have 60 votes in the Senate as some point in the future?

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K & R SunSeeker May 2017 #1
K & R, believe it or not. redgreenandblue May 2017 #2
How about a matchup between Senator Sanders and Senator Manchin? Trial_By_Fire May 2017 #3
LOL NurseJackie May 2017 #5
. George II May 2017 #25
"I will always pick the Democrat." NurseJackie May 2017 #4
Of course, especially considering his liberal version of Hortensis May 2017 #6
You are, of course, absolutely correct WellDarn May 2017 #7
If you maligned Hillary and didn't vote for her La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #9
And correct once again. WellDarn May 2017 #12
Really is nice to see them finally recognize a broader tent strategy. NCTraveler May 2017 #8
But that's not what is happening. Same people are advocating loudly La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #10
There is an unfortunate movement WellDarn May 2017 #13
Thing is a group like this could be effective crazycatlady May 2017 #16
True WellDarn May 2017 #20
I don't know much about her crazycatlady May 2017 #23
I know. I was being a bit lighthearted. NCTraveler May 2017 #14
He is being primaried by that group Cent and a BOBer founded... Demsrule86 May 2017 #19
Yea that 1% of the electorate WellDarn May 2017 #11
Love your post. NCTraveler May 2017 #15
Reagan Democrats became Reagan Republicans many years ago...those still alive Demsrule86 May 2017 #18
Not really WellDarn May 2017 #22
That is not true...and historically the burbs are better educated and vote mostly for Dems... Demsrule86 May 2017 #27
I would just like to add ...we don't need to do any of what you suggest as Demsrule86 May 2017 #28
I'm not sure where WellDarn May 2017 #29
I don't see the joy in the party backing off the idea that people own their own bodies. Squinch May 2017 #26
So true La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #30
I agree...just don't want anti-choice endorsed... Demsrule86 May 2017 #17
Same here. I would vote for any Democrat over a republican. Blue_true May 2017 #21
This says it all. K&R. RedWedge May 2017 #24
I think Sanders has taken the stance that trying to get the water JCanete May 2017 #31
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