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BumRushDaShow

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20. That's the issue, isn't it
Sun Aug 31, 2025, 02:47 PM
Aug 31

and the reason for the RESOLUTION AND the RESPONSE from Pence.

Did you read any of that?

The Resolution was submitted by the-then Speaker of the House of Representatives - Nancy Pelosi, was voted on, and passed - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/21/text

(Roll Call - https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202114)

H. Res. 21


In the House of Representatives, U. S.,

January 12, 2021.

Whereas on Wednesday, January 6, 2021, the day prescribed under section 15 of title 3, United States Code, for the counting of electoral votes, Congress experienced a massive violent invasion of the United States Capitol and its complex by a dangerous insurrectionary mob which smashed windows and used violent physical force and weapons to overpower and outmaneuver the United States Capitol Police and facilitated the illegal entry into the Capitol of hundreds, if not thousands, of unauthorized persons (all of whom entered the Capitol complex without going through metal detectors and other security screening devices);

Whereas, the insurrectionary mob threatened the safety and lives of the Vice President, the Speaker of the House, and the President pro tempore of the Senate, the first three individuals in the line of succession to the presidency, as the rioters were recorded chanting “Hang Mike Pence” and “Where’s Nancy” when President Donald J. Trump tweeted to his supporters that “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our country” after the Capitol had been overrun and the Vice President was in hiding;

Whereas the insurrectionary mob attacked law enforcement officers, unleashed chaos and terror among Members and staffers and their families, occupied the Senate Chamber and Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office along with other leadership offices, vandalized and pilfered government property, and succeeded in interfering with the counting of electoral votes in the joint session of Congress;

Whereas the insurrectionary mob’s violent attacks on law enforcement and invasion of the Capitol complex caused the unprecedented disruption of the Electoral College count process for a 4-hour period in both the House and the Senate, a dangerous and destabilizing impairment of the peaceful transfer of power that these insurrectionary riots were explicitly designed to cause;

Whereas 5 Americans have died as a result of injuries or traumas suffered during this violent attack on Congress and the Capitol, including Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick and Ashli Babbitt, Rosanne Boyland, Kevin Greeson, and Benjamin Phillips, and more than 50 police officers were seriously injured, including 15 officers who had to be hospitalized, by violent assaults, and there could easily have been dozens or hundreds more wounded and killed, a sentiment captured by Senator Lindsey Graham, who observed that “the mob could have blown the building up. They could have killed us all”;

Whereas these insurrectionary protests were widely advertised and broadly encouraged by President Donald J. Trump, who repeatedly urged his millions of followers on Twitter and other social media outlets to come to Washington on January 6 to “Stop the Steal” of the 2020 Presidential election and promised his activist followers that the protest on the Electoral College counting day would be “wild”;

Whereas President-elect Joseph R. Biden won the 2020 Presidential election with more than 81 million votes and defeated President Trump 306–232 in the Electoral College, a margin pronounced to be a “landslide” by President Trump when he won by the same Electoral College numbers in 2016, but President Trump never accepted these election results as legitimate and waged a protracted campaign of propaganda and coercive pressure in the Federal and State courts, in the state legislatures, with Secretaries of State, and in Congress to nullify and overturn these results and replace them with fraudulent and fabricated numbers;

Whereas President Trump made at least 3 attempts to intervene in the lawful vote counting and certification process in Georgia and to coerce officials there into fraudulently declaring him the winner of the State’s electoral votes, including calls to Georgia Governor Brian Kemp and a State elections investigator, and an hour-long conversation with Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger badgering him to “find 11,780 votes” and warning of a “big risk” to Raffensperger if he did not intervene favorably to guarantee the reelection of President Trump;

Whereas President Trump appeared with members of his staff and family at a celebratory kickoff rally to encourage and charge up the rioters and insurrectionists to “walk down to the Capitol” and “if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore” on Wednesday, January 6, 2021;

Whereas while violent insurrectionists occupied parts of the Capitol, President Trump ignored or rejected repeated real-time entreaties from Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer to appeal to his followers to exit the Capitol, and also ignored a tweet from Alyssa Farah, his former communications director, saying: “Condemn this now, @realDonaldTrump—you are the only one they will listen to. For our country!”;

Whereas photographs, cell phone videos, social media posts, and on-the-ground reporting show that numerous violent insurrectionists who invaded the Capitol were armed, were carrying police grade flex cuffs to detain and handcuff people, used mace, pepper spray, and bear spray against United States Capitol Police officers, erected a gallows on Capitol grounds to hang “traitors,” vehemently chanted “Hang Mike Pence!” while surrounding and roving the Capitol, emphasized that storming the Capitol was “a revolution,” brandished the Confederate battle flag inside the Capitol, and were found to be in possession of Napalm B, while still unidentified culprits planted multiple pipe bombs at buildings near the Capitol complex, another lethally dangerous criminal action that succeeded in diverting law enforcement from the Capitol; and

Whereas Donald Trump has demonstrated repeatedly, continuously, and spectacularly his absolute inability to discharge the most basic and fundamental powers and duties of his office, including most recently the duty to respect the legitimate results of the Presidential election, the duty to respect the peaceful transfer of democratic power under the Constitution, the duty to participate in legally defined transition activities, the duty to protect and uphold the Constitution of the United States, including the counting of Electoral College votes by Congress, the duty to protect the people of the United States and their elected representatives against domestic insurrection, mob rule, and seditious violence, and generally the duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That the House of Representatives calls upon Vice President Michael R. Pence—

(1) to immediately use his powers under section 4 of the 25th Amendment to convene and mobilize the principal officers of the executive departments in the Cabinet to declare what is obvious to a horrified Nation: That the President is unable to successfully discharge the duties and powers of his office; and

(2) to transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives notice that he will be immediately assuming the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Attest:


Pence responded that he didn't think it was necessary. But this was the procedure that they used to make the request.

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Trump could be foaming at the mouth and speaking no words with real meaning and Republicans would do nothing. Lonestarblue Aug 31 #1
I agree, but there's no one to review it. The people around him are equally crazy. Vinca Aug 31 #2
25....47.. twodogsbarking Aug 31 #3
It will only happen if JD Vance calls the meeting with cabinet members FakeNoose Aug 31 #4
Vance wants the presidency, but MAGA would absolutely hate his guts Martin Eden Aug 31 #7
Democrats need to keep that issue out there. Pritzker skirted the idea last week. /nt bucolic_frolic Aug 31 #5
YES INDEED! Let people hear it, see it, loud and clear. THIS IS NOT NORMAL! CTyankee Aug 31 #8
It needs to be a continuing chorus, Bayard Aug 31 #11
JV Dance doesn't have the cult adoration Oeditpus Rex Sep 1 #33
Implementation of the 25th should be out there, 24/7. Paladin Aug 31 #6
Lock him up, and down and all around, like the hokey pokey but in the pokey. twodogsbarking Aug 31 #9
Pedofelon one is a danger to the world now... Justice matters. Aug 31 #10
Jesus, is this for real? thought crime Aug 31 #13
Yep. It looks like the pedofelon kingpin is announcing that if he goes down sick... Justice matters. Aug 31 #14
It would be easier to remove him through impeachment -- and that's not going to happen either. onenote Aug 31 #12
That depends on whether the kooky cabinet BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #15
It really doesn't FBaggins Aug 31 #16
That only applies if he is even cognizent enough to do so BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #17
You think he wouldn't immediately say that he was fine? FBaggins Aug 31 #18
That's the issue, isn't it BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #20
You keep highlighting portions of the resolution as though they contradict what I said FBaggins Aug 31 #21
"She was just hoping to put some republicans on the record defending him" BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #23
There is no "alternate procedural mechanism" for 25A FBaggins Aug 31 #25
"There is no "alternate procedural mechanism" for 25A" BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #27
of course she is right. Maxine knows shit and has seen it all. Evolve Dammit Aug 31 #19
They do. But the 25th is useless. Two things we KNOW.. Grins Aug 31 #22
Nevertheless, I do like that people are already at least talking about it. calimary Aug 31 #24
A lot of the Constitution is without teeth. Aussie105 Sep 1 #30
I have posted many times about our system of government relying heavily on "the honor system" BumRushDaShow Sep 1 #31
The 25th was not written to prevent a crazy person from being president onenote Sep 1 #32
Be careful what you wish for. Vance is far worse because of Thiel. n/t valleyrogue Aug 31 #26
But he's also hated by the MAGats BumRushDaShow Aug 31 #28
'Makings of a dictator': Rep. Maxine Waters blasts Trump over attempted ouster of Fed Governor - The Weeknight - MSNBC Rhiannon12866 Aug 31 #29
This isthe message Oeditpus Rex Sep 1 #34
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