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Cirsium

(3,058 posts)
123. But that isn't the issue
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 05:54 PM
Oct 11

Regardless of how bad Maduro supposedly is, there is no excuse for supporting fascism. We are talking about Machado. But even if the discussion were not about Machado, our focus still should not be on Madoro, but rather on the global right wing movement which is by far the greater threat to us than the regime in Venezuela.

Since the end of the Second World War, U.S. foreign policy has displayed a predictable pattern. Progressive states unwilling to submit to U.S. dictates are branded as “dictatorships,” “terrorist sponsors,” or, in Venezuela’s case, a “narcotic state.”

Through sanctions, blockades, and financial strangulation, Washington seeks to suffocate economies until populations turn against their governments. Africa has experienced this repeatedly, with sanctions weaponised against countries that dared to assert independence.

From Iraq to Libya, Afghanistan to Grenada, U.S. wars have toppled governments, destroyed infrastructure, and left millions dead. Africa, too, bears scars of this adventurism from NATO’s destruction of Libya to covert destabilisation across the Sahel.

At the core lies the desire to seize oil, minerals, and strategic territories for Western corporations. This same resource plunder defined the colonial experience of Africa and now defines Washington’s aggression against Venezuela.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/venezuela-imperialism-and-global-struggle-sovereignty


On September 2, President Trump publicly announced a lethal attack on a boat allegedly carrying drugs and tied to the Tren de Aragua, an extinct Venezuelan criminal gang that the US government claims is still active and operating on US soil. The US Intelligence Community reportedly denied ties between President Nicolas Maduro and these claims. Nonetheless, these allegations have been used to justify the invocation of the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 for the third time in history – the first during the War of 1812 and the second during World War II – now targeting Venezuelans living in the US during peacetime. This led to the deportation of 252 Venezuelans, without due process, and to their imprisonment and torture in a concentration camp in El Salvador. Some were even separated from their children.

Trump’s rhetoric has also linked Venezuelan immigrants to criminality and mental illness, aligning with the nativist agenda in his own base. Driven by his policy of immigrant expulsion, the US migrant population dropped by 1.4 million between January and June of 2025, according to the Pew Research Center, causing the immigrant share of the population to decrease from 15.8 to 15.4 percent. After breaking diplomatic and consular ties in 2019 over the recognition of a self-proclaimed President, direct deportations were halted until February 2025, when the US allowed Venezuelan planes to repatriate migrants. Venezuela had already been implementing its Return to the Homeland (Vuelta a la Patria) program since the pandemic, but its airline was banned from the US by sanctions. The Trump Administration also increased its internal persecution of Venezuelans by ending temporary migratory measures set under the Biden Administration.

In the weeks leading up to the UN address, Trump claimed that at least two more lethal attacks on boats were carried out, posting videos that only showed people being killed by aerial bombardment, with no independent verification of the drug trafficking claims or the victims’ nationality. The Venezuelan government has also denounced the harassment of Venezuelan fishermen by US military officers. During his UN speech, Trump boasted that “there aren’t too many boats that are traveling on the seas by Venezuela,” suggesting that all sea vessels are now under threat. Furthermore, he also openly claimed that President Maduro was leading “terrorist and trafficking networks”, without presenting any evidence. In August, the bounty for Maduro’s capture was raised to USD 50 million, despite earlier intelligence community reports reportedly disregarding the claim.

Venezuela, its government, and its citizens are currently under threat from the most powerful military power in the world. Yet Venezuela has continued to seek a peaceful resolution. President Maduro sent a letter to Trump in the first week of September via an intermediary, calling for dialogue and refuting the drug-trafficking claims. The historical precedent of Operation Brother Sam in 1964 — where the deployment of US warships near Brazil catalyzed the military overthrow of democratically-elected president João Goulart is a parallel that hints at a regime change operation. The difference is that this time, there have been no anti-government defections.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/we-will-blow-you-out-existence-trumps-caribbean-spectacle

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We need her here in the US. Irish_Dem Oct 10 #1
That selection BumRushDaShow Oct 10 #2
My thoughts exactly Bum. Irish_Dem Oct 10 #5
And Venezuela BumRushDaShow Oct 10 #6
Just another reason popsdenver Oct 10 #22
Maduro is just a "younger" (albeit 62 year old) despot like 45 BumRushDaShow Oct 10 #30
Mara Corina Machado Parisca born 7 October 1967 (age 58) twodogsbarking Oct 10 #38
Nicols Maduro born November 23, 1962 (age 62) BumRushDaShow Oct 10 #44
Yes indeed. It was early and I was confused, and as my Latina doctor has told me "you are male, and old". twodogsbarking Oct 10 #45
I figured that... BumRushDaShow Oct 10 #47
Yes that piece too. Nobel committee knocked it out of the park. Irish_Dem Oct 10 #25
Who told you she is brown? You are wrong about that. Escurumbele Oct 10 #19
I've heard Mediterranean skin tone referred to as an "Olive complexion". Eom Karma13612 Oct 10 #27
The topic of my discussion with Bum is about a targeted message to Trump. Irish_Dem Oct 10 #28
"She is a very intelligent woman, well educated, the color of her skin is not important" BumRushDaShow Oct 10 #36
And don't forget the Venezuelan Karma13612 Oct 10 #24
A small piece of justice for those murdered in cold blood by Trump. Irish_Dem Oct 10 #29
She supports that Cirsium Oct 10 #70
I just read that. :( Irish_Dem Oct 10 #84
She's right-wing, supports the sanctions and would love regime change by the US. e AloeVera Oct 10 #87
"supports the sanctions and would love regime change by the US" EX500rider Oct 10 #96
Right Cirsium Oct 11 #121
The so what is the EU isn't far right and they have sanctions so it isn't just us EX500rider Oct 11 #122
But that isn't the issue Cirsium Oct 11 #123
Pedofelon will blow a few more fishing boats. Justice matters. Oct 10 #41
What difference does that make? Cirsium Oct 10 #64
Yes it doesn't matter to Trump. Loyalty/ ass kissing is the only thing he cares about. Irish_Dem Oct 10 #68
Exactly avebury Oct 10 #8
She is a Trump supporter Cirsium Oct 10 #71
She is not the anti-Trump Shrek Oct 10 #79
You're exactly right. LisaM Oct 10 #11
No Doubt! the US Traitor Lost to Cha Oct 10 #53
She is an extreme right winger Cirsium Oct 10 #72
Wow... then why is she fighting for Democracy Cha Oct 10 #73
She isn't Cirsium Oct 10 #75
Okay.. then the Peace Committee was Cha Oct 10 #78
Yes Cirsium Oct 10 #80
She's exhausting. Thanks for Cha Oct 10 #81
Or the person you are talking to is wrong EX500rider Oct 10 #97
There have been lots of receipts all Cha Oct 10 #102
Agree. riversedge Oct 10 #3
Why? Do think she will stand up to Trump? GusBob Oct 10 #54
I just read her quote. They should take away the Peace Prize right away. Irish_Dem Oct 10 #57
We have plenty Cirsium Oct 10 #63
Good choice bmichaelh Oct 10 #4
From the country drumpf is trying to start a war with JoseBalow Oct 10 #7
exactly! LymphocyteLover Oct 10 #15
With her support Cirsium Oct 10 #85
Pop goes the slap in the face. gordianot Oct 10 #9
Take that, Mr. Dictator-Wannabe. MLWR Oct 10 #10
Pedofelon will never get this prize. Justice matters. Oct 10 #42
I bet Donny Dementia's BP will be a record high at his doctors appointment today. Gimpyknee Oct 10 #12
HAHAHAHAHA! Paladin Oct 10 #13
Schweeeeeet!!! LymphocyteLover Oct 10 #14
Donnie Two-scoops is gonna have a hissy!! Mawspam2 Oct 10 #16
If it was ever awarded to him it would tarnish the meaning of it forever. Katinfl Oct 10 #17
I'm very glad Trump didn't win, but.. karin_sj Oct 10 #18
Well, then I need to read more about what is happening there. Karma13612 Oct 10 #31
more will come out about her that is... unpalatable. druidity33 Oct 10 #34
Agree. That "Machado insisted to The Sunday Times that Trump was right to bomb the boat" does not sound peaceful, imo. ancianita Oct 10 #67
She has supported many Cirsium Oct 10 #86
I share your opinions here. druidity33 Oct 10 #92
You know what? cab67 Oct 10 #46
Maduro is not relevant Cirsium Oct 10 #88
Oh, it absolutely matters. cab67 Oct 10 #90
You don't care? Cirsium Oct 10 #91
Maduro is far worse Polybius Oct 10 #93
Wow Cirsium Oct 10 #107
Wow what? Polybius Oct 11 #128
She was involved in a coup Cirsium Oct 11 #130
One that was well deserved Polybius Oct 12 #134
I care about context. cab67 Oct 10 #94
Anything? Cirsium Oct 11 #120
I don't know what their limits are. You'd have to ask them. cab67 Oct 11 #126
OK Cirsium Oct 11 #129
I've already expressed them. cab67 Oct 12 #132
Thanks Cirsium Oct 12 #133
"Many apologists for Maduro in the US point to the way he, and Chavez before him, lavished resources on impoverished.." EX500rider Oct 10 #99
I stand by what I wrote. cab67 Oct 10 #109
facts show otherwise IMO EX500rider Oct 11 #111
I don't think we disagree..... cab67 Oct 11 #112
She praised him on Twitter Shrek Oct 10 #50
What Was That!! Cha Oct 10 #55
Where is the "praise" in that statement? EX500rider Oct 10 #100
The "fishing boat" meme is kind of silly IMO EX500rider Oct 10 #98
ROFLMAO. Glad they didn't fold to pressure from old Voldy. spudspud Oct 10 #20
The Committee should award dumpie The Nobel PIECE Prize KS Toronado Oct 10 #21
Must burn his fat orange ass that Jimmy Carter and Barack Obama have won the award. Ziggysmom Oct 10 #23
Gloria al Bravo Pueblo Wild blueberry Oct 10 #26
This makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Oct 10 #32
CONGRATULATONS "Maria Corina Machado, for her tireless work upholding democratic rights for Venezuelans" riversedge Oct 10 #33
She is an extreme right winger Cirsium Oct 10 #89
Molly Jong-Fast: It really feels like they're trolling our autocrat. riversedge Oct 10 #35
The US may have lost its mind, but Norway hasn't. Sneederbunk Oct 10 #37
Kicked! Wonderful news to wake up to and start the day. Can't help smiling already. KPN Oct 10 #39
The orange one having a bad day. chuckle chuckle republianmushroom Oct 10 #40
And Dedicates it to Trump Akakoji Oct 10 #43
She is a staunch defender of capitalism Farmer-Rick Oct 10 #48
Yes, this is a hero of the right. thought crime Oct 10 #58
Right, cause the current command economy has worked so well for Venz. EX500rider Oct 10 #101
She just dedicated her "peace" prize to pedo Trump Farmer-Rick Oct 11 #118
This selection is a direct rebuke of HappyLarge Oct 10 #49
How, exactly? IbogaProject Oct 10 #60
Foolish. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 11 #115
Take a Letter Maria eringer Oct 10 #51
EDITED.. I was WRONG to think she was a good Cha Oct 10 #52
I'm surprised at this GusBob Oct 10 #105
I didn't know what she was when Cha Oct 10 #108
"Extreme neoliberal shock therapy" Cirsium Oct 10 #56
Yeah, all our "critical thinkers" might want to check it out a little before cheering. thought crime Oct 10 #61
I know Now... Cirsium, the first reply to Cha Oct 10 #106
Yep horrible choice for the "Peace" prize IbogaProject Oct 10 #62
"The problems in Venezuela are mostly due to our Embargo depriving the country of needed trade" EX500rider Oct 10 #103
Heartsick. Would you consider posting this as its own OP for wider niyad Oct 10 #65
Yes, it is Cirsium Oct 10 #74
Greatly appreciated and thank you. niyad Oct 10 #76
Peace Prize Remball Oct 10 #59
Bookmarking. niyad Oct 10 #66
Sanity will out Montauk6 Oct 10 #69
suck it DoBW Oct 10 #77
BAAAHAHAHAAAAA! Ok, maybe AI is good occasionally... electric_blue68 Oct 10 #110
hear this one? DoBW Oct 11 #124
Heh! TY. (boo, hoo 😄) electric_blue68 Oct 11 #125
It's complicated . . . Aussie105 Oct 10 #82
Press release Cirsium Oct 10 #83
She is sickening for all the reasons you've laid out throughout this thread. AloeVera Oct 11 #127
Kick BlueWavePsych Oct 10 #95
Who will Trump murder next to satisfy his rejected ego? Will Miller present a new killing as a salve to his boss? Blues Heron Oct 10 #104
Hypocrisy: When Zelensky is allowed to praise Trump to free his country but Machado isn't. mathematic Oct 11 #113
Exactly, but Tankies gonna Tank..... nt EX500rider Oct 11 #116
Weird that people are celebrating her. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 11 #114
Bomb Venezuelan boats lose to a Venezuelan LetMyPeopleVote Oct 11 #117
...who supports him Cirsium Oct 11 #119
A hard right Latin American róisín_dubh Oct 12 #131
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