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18. MaddowBlog-White House targets Democratic veterans who told troops to refuse illegal orders
Thu Nov 20, 2025, 01:41 PM
Nov 2025

In theory, the Democratic video shouldn’t have been especially controversial. In practice, Team Trump’s pushback has been over the top.

Dem veterans reminded servicemembers to refuse illegal orders.

Trump responded by accusing them of “sedition,” labeling them “traitors” and suggesting that they’re subject to arrest — all before raising the possibility *of capital punishment*. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-11-20T16:04:49.330Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/white-house-targets-democratic-veterans-told-troops-refuse-illegal-ord-rcna244954

Acting on those concerns, six Democratic members of Congress, who served in the military, the intelligence community or both, appeared in a video this week to remind current service members that they are obligated to refuse illegal orders. The New York Times reported:

The stark message, posted on Tuesday, was organized by Senator Elissa Slotkin of Michigan, a former C.I.A. analyst who served multiple tours in Iraq. … ‘Our laws are clear,’ said Senator Mark Kelly of Arizona, a Navy veteran and former astronaut. ‘You can refuse illegal orders.’ ‘You must refuse illegal orders,’ added Representative Chris Deluzio of Pennsylvania, who also served in the Navy.


...In theory, the video shouldn’t have been especially controversial. After all, the Democratic veterans are correct: Service members aren’t supposed to follow illegal orders.

In practice, the partisan pushback has been ferocious.....

On Thursday morning, the president published an item to his social media platform responding to the message from the Democratic veterans, saying, “This is really bad, and Dangerous to our Country. Their words cannot be allowed to stand. SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR FROM TRAITORS!!! LOCK THEM UP???”

This dovetailed with a similar message, also posted on Thursday morning, which read, “It’s called SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL. Each one of these traitors to our Country should be ARRESTED AND PUT ON TRIAL. Their words cannot be allowed to stand — We won’t have a Country anymore!!! An example MUST BE SET.”

Soon after, the Republican added, “SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR, punishable by DEATH!”

Trump similarly amplified an online message written by someone else, who wrote, “HANG THEM GEORGE WASHINGTON WOULD !!.....

In the recent past, many leading GOP voices warned that rhetoric like this was corrosive to society and heightened the risk of political violence. Evidently, the incumbent president, outraged by calls in support of the rule of law, doesn’t care.

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Quiet, Piggy orangecrush Nov 2025 #1
Yep. Telling someone to obey the law is not a crime Maeve Nov 2025 #3
Yes! Any time he posts, any time he speaks, that should be the rejoinder. n/t Mister Ed Nov 2025 #5
"Piggy" is too nice Klondike Kat Nov 2025 #15
Urging others to simply follow the rule of law is now a crime? sop Nov 2025 #2
Well the Republican party believe they are above the law............ Lovie777 Nov 2025 #4
"so be it written, so be it done" pharaoh yul brenner rampartd Nov 2025 #7
I believe those courageous congressmen and congresswomen knew what would happen Redleg Nov 2025 #6
Quiet Quiet Piggy! Clouds Passing Nov 2025 #8
Please add me to the fucking list asshat! maxrandb Nov 2025 #9
The First Amendment made simple historical sedition--basically criticizing or opposing the government in any way--a... Ol Janx Spirit Nov 2025 #10
Ah, but there is NO amendment sacred any longer slightlv Nov 2025 #31
That's like going back in time and killing your own grandfather.... But it does seem... Ol Janx Spirit Nov 2025 #32
it's always projection Nigrum Cattus Nov 2025 #11
It's like these MAGA's feel like they finally got bluestarone Nov 2025 #12
Oh for heaven's sake - as if he writes all these big words himself. Talitha Nov 2025 #13
Now let's see if AG Blondi tries to charge these Democrats with Sedition. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 2025 #14
Dem leaders just said Trump's call for execution of Dems has prompted them to contact US Capitol Police LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2025 #16
As my Mama used to say: Bayard Nov 2025 #17
MaddowBlog-White House targets Democratic veterans who told troops to refuse illegal orders LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2025 #18
Irony is still dead. Harker Nov 2025 #19
Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga bingbong DinahMoeHum Nov 2025 #20
baka yaro YoshidaYui Nov 2025 #21
Senator Murphy-It is time to draw a line in the sand LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2025 #22
He pretty much says that every day about something now, everyone has to be arrested! tonekat Nov 2025 #23
Piggy's utterance is an illegal order. Kid Berwyn Nov 2025 #24
Speaker Johnson defended this f'en nonsense. Gimpyknee Nov 2025 #25
Piggy is Johnson's Lard and Savior. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2025 #34
As every accusation is a confession with this sick fuck, he's just confirming to the world Gaugamela Nov 2025 #26
Every accusation is a confession HarryM Nov 2025 #27
Why doesn't he just fucking die? Orrex Nov 2025 #28
When your prosecutors are laughed out of court, you go to Plan B bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #29
Die, Beast, Die! Didn't we used to say this is the pot calling the kettle black? nt slightlv Nov 2025 #30
King Piggy says what? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2025 #33
The law is crystal clear Ponietz Nov 2025 #35
Sorry orange Nazi slob, hadEnuf Nov 2025 #36
Can we use the Hitler name yet MSM? Nah...better wait for Trump to really do something outrageous. Bengus81 Nov 2025 #37
They can't -- that would make them subject to being charged Rocknation Nov 2025 #38
This clearly crosses the line into intimidation. BurnDoubt Nov 2025 #39
He calls their reminding servicemembers to obey the Constitution and the UCMJ treason while he works for Russia? ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #40
Telling troops to obey the law COL Mustard Nov 2025 #41
NO!!! YOU are dangerous and very bad for our Country! sueh Nov 2025 #42
He's picking up bad habits from his Saudi playmate. Queso Delicioso Nov 2025 #43
How many are retired? The Grand Illuminist Nov 2025 #44
Well Katcat Nov 2025 #45
This coming from a convicted felon that half the voters were too stupid to put in jail. mdbl Nov 2025 #46
That POS doesn't even know that there's a UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) for the military. usonian Nov 2025 #47
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