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47. If the guy was rational, he would have backed off as soon as he saw the gun

Fri Jul 3, 2026, 01:41 PM

23 hrs ago

The fact that kept closing the distance despite repeated warnings and the presence of the gun, suggests to me that he was capable of anything had he got close enough to the woman.

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Man fatally shot in Walmart parking lot following dispute over parking space: Authorities [View all] groundloop Yesterday OP

Good news for her. Now, she'll have her own, permanent parking space. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #1

His parking spot will be in an urn over the fireplace wolfie001 Yesterday #16

Oofff Hassin Bin Sober 18 hrs ago #87

Ah, America. Where the answer to every problem is a gun. sinkingfeeling Yesterday #2

It was a middle aged Black woman angrychair 23 hrs ago #35

it would SEEM you are correct but.... democratsruletheday 23 hrs ago #38

Why didn't she get in her car or walk into the store? I don't accept killing a person when there were other solutions. sinkingfeeling 23 hrs ago #39

What I saw was him closing the distance to her Kaleva 23 hrs ago #42

She initially got out of the car with a gun in her hand. That might be a problem for her. Hassin Bin Sober 17 hrs ago #94

Time will tell Kaleva 15 hrs ago #107

She tried angrychair 23 hrs ago #45

Retail stores have parking adequate for the holiday shopping season Blumancru Yesterday #3

There's more to the story than this. flvegan Yesterday #4

"Around the parking lot?" ... JustABozoOnThisBus Yesterday #5

Testosterone poisoning? Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #7

From the video, she appears to be a Woman of Color, that wish is going to be hard to get in Fla irisblue Yesterday #18

Yes, she warned him several times, backed away from him again and again, tried to put cars between them. Midnight Writer Yesterday #22

100%. and Thank You! (for putting some realistic perspective on this incident) stopdiggin Yesterday #29

Wow what a nasty take. Wiz Imp Yesterday #23

nah. asshat really brought this on himself. stopdiggin Yesterday #30

She did more than most would angrychair 23 hrs ago #36

It looked like a clear case of self defense to me Kaleva 23 hrs ago #43

Wow. Unbelievable. Wiz Imp 23 hrs ago #44

If the guy was rational, he would have retreated the moment he saw the Gun Kaleva 22 hrs ago #50

and called for cops to arrest her for threatening him muriel_volestrangler 21 hrs ago #62

No one in their right mind would approach someone with a gun Kaleva 15 hrs ago #104

It's a stand your ground state. NutmegYankee 22 hrs ago #54

SOmething was also seriously wrong with that woman. Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago #56

A jury will have to consider what he said prior, if anything, to advancing toward her. LudwigPastorius 22 hrs ago #57

100% agree bluestarone 18 hrs ago #74

As a whole, we ARE a disappointing species. There good people among us but I fear we are in societal collapse. OrlandoDem2 Yesterday #11

Listen to the news story. Wiz Imp Yesterday #26

That isn't the whole story angrychair 23 hrs ago #37

stop making sense.... democratsruletheday 23 hrs ago #40

People should be nicer to one another. twodogsbarking Yesterday #6

Don't wanna make it about me but as a 66 yo white male..... wolfie001 Yesterday #15

It looks like he was stalking her but she should have retreated to her car and not brandished the gun. Ritabert Yesterday #8

Stop shopping at Walmart. So many People of Walmart suck! OrlandoDem2 Yesterday #9

He seemed intent on a physical confrontation, despite her pointing a gun 70sEraVet Yesterday #10

+1. dalton99a Yesterday #19

maybe it's the "Exception that Proves the Rule" Hieronymus Phact Yesterday #28

Plus 2 bluestarone 18 hrs ago #75

I'm Sorry, But She Had Ample Opportunities to Return to the Store, Drive Off, Whatever DrFunkenstein Yesterday #12

She tried angrychair 23 hrs ago #41

I didn't see in the video where he was preventing her from driving off MichMan 23 hrs ago #46

In Florida that's legal angrychair 22 hrs ago #51

I noticed MorbidButterflyTat 20 hrs ago #67

Old loser white guy kept on wolfie001 Yesterday #13

I am guessing that there is a backstory here, and not a pretty one. niyad Yesterday #14

If This Was a Black Man and a White Woman, Imagine the Fox News Coverage and Campaign Ads DrFunkenstein Yesterday #17

This could go either way NewEnglandAutumn Yesterday #20

It was an argument over a parking spot. sop Yesterday #21

If the guy was rational, he would have backed off as soon as he saw the gun Kaleva 23 hrs ago #47

Those are a lot of assumptions to justify shooting a man to death in a parking lot. sop 22 hrs ago #55

I certainly didn't see anything in the video that justified a shooting. NT Midwestern Democrat 23 hrs ago #48

Floriduh. SergeStorms Yesterday #24

She didn't have to kill him, that's how the jury would see it FakeNoose Yesterday #25

People are touchy these days. ananda Yesterday #27

This is the Supreme Court's America J_William_Ryan Yesterday #31

Had he the brains to back up & call the police saying a woman was threatening him with a gun, Wonder Why Yesterday #32

I'm Pretty Sure Everyone Here Was Operating From The Amygdala, Except One Had a Handgun DrFunkenstein 23 hrs ago #34

Clearly angrychair 22 hrs ago #53

Why did she exit her car brandishing the gun instead of just driving away? MichMan Yesterday #33

By law, she isn't required to drive away Kaleva 22 hrs ago #49

She isn't required to shoot and kill either MichMan 21 hrs ago #60

larger male repeatedly physically advancing on female that is (repeatedly) stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #71

Based on what I saw, I'd say her actions were resonable Kaleva 15 hrs ago #105

Some of these responses are disturbing angrychair 22 hrs ago #52

Why does race have to be a factor? MichMan 21 hrs ago #58

Why does gender have to be a factor? MorbidButterflyTat 20 hrs ago #69

Why should race be ignored? Torchlight 20 hrs ago #70

Because, it always about skin color angrychair 18 hrs ago #72

"People haven't even seen the video" MichMan 17 hrs ago #95

I'm not assuming anything angrychair 17 hrs ago #96

We have video; he was not in a position to physically threaten her muriel_volestrangler 21 hrs ago #61

Interesting angrychair 18 hrs ago #73

I might put it as "the unarmed person didn't do anything wrong or threatening" muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #76

Then the unarmed man angrychair 18 hrs ago #79

I don't see "might is right" as a good guiding principle muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #81

No angrychair 18 hrs ago #86

'Malice'? No. Recklessness, yes. muriel_volestrangler 17 hrs ago #88

We are done angrychair 17 hrs ago #90

"Victim blaming"? I'm not blaming the victim. The victim is the dead guy. muriel_volestrangler 17 hrs ago #91

But his behavior was irrational Kaleva 7 hrs ago #111

Being irrational is not a reason to be shot. muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #113

Approaching someone armed with a gun is highly irrational behavior Kaleva 5 hrs ago #114

No: we must be absolutely clear: her behaviour was extremely irrational, and she killed him as a result muriel_volestrangler 4 hrs ago #115

sorry, I see her as a gun humper Skittles 16 hrs ago #102

Sorry angrychair 16 hrs ago #103

SHE could have driven away too Skittles 15 hrs ago #106

He was the aggressor angrychair 15 hrs ago #108

That's just stupid. I can't imagine shooting someone over a parking space. Vinca 21 hrs ago #59

I am not to say this was justified or not, but I have a question sarisataka 21 hrs ago #63

He should have MichMan 21 hrs ago #64

So she is just supposed to stand there angrychair 18 hrs ago #77

You see an "attack"; I see an argument muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #78

I see centerists angrychair 18 hrs ago #82

As I said, I really don't understand where "centrists" come into this muriel_volestrangler 18 hrs ago #83

No angrychair 17 hrs ago #89

Very few people deserve to be killed sarisataka 18 hrs ago #84

Another thing to keep in mind is that... LudwigPastorius 8 hrs ago #110

I agree Kaleva 7 hrs ago #112

Bottom line, stupidity got him killed. Buddyzbuddy 20 hrs ago #65

"That's an entitled man that was used to scaring other people into doing what he wanted." MorbidButterflyTat 20 hrs ago #68

Leave it to judge and jury. Sneederbunk 20 hrs ago #66

Black woman, white older man csusan 18 hrs ago #80

Having been right is poor consolation when you're dead or in prison. RockRaven 18 hrs ago #85

In MN, she'd be incarcerated, whatever her story, because she didn't physically run away first. OC375 17 hrs ago #92

MN has castle doctrine sarisataka 17 hrs ago #93

Castle doctrine in name only. OC375 17 hrs ago #97

Can you provide a case sarisataka 17 hrs ago #98

State vs Blevins 2024 OC375 17 hrs ago #99

Not in the home sarisataka 16 hrs ago #100

We'll have to see... OC375 16 hrs ago #101

you have completely misrepresented almost the entirety of what the stopdiggin 9 hrs ago #109

We'll see OC375 4 hrs ago #116

But are you retreating if you get out of your car with a gun in your hand? Hassin Bin Sober 3 hrs ago #117