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50. If the guy was rational, he would have retreated the moment he saw the Gun

Fri Jul 3, 2026, 01:48 PM

21 hrs ago

The fact that he kept following her despite repeated warnings and the presence of the gun suggests to me he was capable of anything had he got close enough to the woman.

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Man fatally shot in Walmart parking lot following dispute over parking space: Authorities [View all] groundloop Yesterday OP

Good news for her. Now, she'll have her own, permanent parking space. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #1

His parking spot will be in an urn over the fireplace wolfie001 Yesterday #16

Oofff Hassin Bin Sober 16 hrs ago #87

Ah, America. Where the answer to every problem is a gun. sinkingfeeling Yesterday #2

It was a middle aged Black woman angrychair 22 hrs ago #35

it would SEEM you are correct but.... democratsruletheday 21 hrs ago #38

Why didn't she get in her car or walk into the store? I don't accept killing a person when there were other solutions. sinkingfeeling 21 hrs ago #39

What I saw was him closing the distance to her Kaleva 21 hrs ago #42

She initially got out of the car with a gun in her hand. That might be a problem for her. Hassin Bin Sober 16 hrs ago #94

Time will tell Kaleva 14 hrs ago #107

She tried angrychair 21 hrs ago #45

Retail stores have parking adequate for the holiday shopping season Blumancru Yesterday #3

There's more to the story than this. flvegan Yesterday #4

"Around the parking lot?" ... JustABozoOnThisBus Yesterday #5

Testosterone poisoning? Miguelito Loveless Yesterday #7

From the video, she appears to be a Woman of Color, that wish is going to be hard to get in Fla irisblue Yesterday #18

Yes, she warned him several times, backed away from him again and again, tried to put cars between them. Midnight Writer Yesterday #22

100%. and Thank You! (for putting some realistic perspective on this incident) stopdiggin 23 hrs ago #29

Wow what a nasty take. Wiz Imp Yesterday #23

nah. asshat really brought this on himself. stopdiggin 23 hrs ago #30

She did more than most would angrychair 21 hrs ago #36

It looked like a clear case of self defense to me Kaleva 21 hrs ago #43

Wow. Unbelievable. Wiz Imp 21 hrs ago #44

If the guy was rational, he would have retreated the moment he saw the Gun Kaleva 21 hrs ago #50

and called for cops to arrest her for threatening him muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #62

No one in their right mind would approach someone with a gun Kaleva 14 hrs ago #104

It's a stand your ground state. NutmegYankee 21 hrs ago #54

SOmething was also seriously wrong with that woman. Wiz Imp 21 hrs ago #56

A jury will have to consider what he said prior, if anything, to advancing toward her. LudwigPastorius 20 hrs ago #57

100% agree bluestarone 17 hrs ago #74

As a whole, we ARE a disappointing species. There good people among us but I fear we are in societal collapse. OrlandoDem2 Yesterday #11

Listen to the news story. Wiz Imp Yesterday #26

That isn't the whole story angrychair 21 hrs ago #37

stop making sense.... democratsruletheday 21 hrs ago #40

People should be nicer to one another. twodogsbarking Yesterday #6

Don't wanna make it about me but as a 66 yo white male..... wolfie001 Yesterday #15

It looks like he was stalking her but she should have retreated to her car and not brandished the gun. Ritabert Yesterday #8

Stop shopping at Walmart. So many People of Walmart suck! OrlandoDem2 Yesterday #9

He seemed intent on a physical confrontation, despite her pointing a gun 70sEraVet Yesterday #10

+1. dalton99a Yesterday #19

maybe it's the "Exception that Proves the Rule" Hieronymus Phact 23 hrs ago #28

Plus 2 bluestarone 17 hrs ago #75

I'm Sorry, But She Had Ample Opportunities to Return to the Store, Drive Off, Whatever DrFunkenstein Yesterday #12

She tried angrychair 21 hrs ago #41

I didn't see in the video where he was preventing her from driving off MichMan 21 hrs ago #46

In Florida that's legal angrychair 21 hrs ago #51

I noticed MorbidButterflyTat 19 hrs ago #67

Old loser white guy kept on wolfie001 Yesterday #13

I am guessing that there is a backstory here, and not a pretty one. niyad Yesterday #14

If This Was a Black Man and a White Woman, Imagine the Fox News Coverage and Campaign Ads DrFunkenstein Yesterday #17

This could go either way NewEnglandAutumn Yesterday #20

It was an argument over a parking spot. sop Yesterday #21

If the guy was rational, he would have backed off as soon as he saw the gun Kaleva 21 hrs ago #47

Those are a lot of assumptions to justify shooting a man to death in a parking lot. sop 21 hrs ago #55

I certainly didn't see anything in the video that justified a shooting. NT Midwestern Democrat 21 hrs ago #48

Floriduh. SergeStorms Yesterday #24

She didn't have to kill him, that's how the jury would see it FakeNoose Yesterday #25

People are touchy these days. ananda Yesterday #27

This is the Supreme Court's America J_William_Ryan 23 hrs ago #31

Had he the brains to back up & call the police saying a woman was threatening him with a gun, Wonder Why 22 hrs ago #32

I'm Pretty Sure Everyone Here Was Operating From The Amygdala, Except One Had a Handgun DrFunkenstein 22 hrs ago #34

Clearly angrychair 21 hrs ago #53

Why did she exit her car brandishing the gun instead of just driving away? MichMan 22 hrs ago #33

By law, she isn't required to drive away Kaleva 21 hrs ago #49

She isn't required to shoot and kill either MichMan 19 hrs ago #60

larger male repeatedly physically advancing on female that is (repeatedly) stopdiggin 18 hrs ago #71

Based on what I saw, I'd say her actions were resonable Kaleva 14 hrs ago #105

Some of these responses are disturbing angrychair 21 hrs ago #52

Why does race have to be a factor? MichMan 20 hrs ago #58

Why does gender have to be a factor? MorbidButterflyTat 18 hrs ago #69

Why should race be ignored? Torchlight 18 hrs ago #70

Because, it always about skin color angrychair 17 hrs ago #72

"People haven't even seen the video" MichMan 16 hrs ago #95

I'm not assuming anything angrychair 16 hrs ago #96

We have video; he was not in a position to physically threaten her muriel_volestrangler 19 hrs ago #61

Interesting angrychair 17 hrs ago #73

I might put it as "the unarmed person didn't do anything wrong or threatening" muriel_volestrangler 17 hrs ago #76

Then the unarmed man angrychair 17 hrs ago #79

I don't see "might is right" as a good guiding principle muriel_volestrangler 17 hrs ago #81

No angrychair 16 hrs ago #86

'Malice'? No. Recklessness, yes. muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #88

We are done angrychair 16 hrs ago #90

"Victim blaming"? I'm not blaming the victim. The victim is the dead guy. muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #91

But his behavior was irrational Kaleva 6 hrs ago #111

Being irrational is not a reason to be shot. muriel_volestrangler 5 hrs ago #113

Approaching someone armed with a gun is highly irrational behavior Kaleva 4 hrs ago #114

No: we must be absolutely clear: her behaviour was extremely irrational, and she killed him as a result muriel_volestrangler 3 hrs ago #115

sorry, I see her as a gun humper Skittles 15 hrs ago #102

Sorry angrychair 14 hrs ago #103

SHE could have driven away too Skittles 14 hrs ago #106

He was the aggressor angrychair 14 hrs ago #108

That's just stupid. I can't imagine shooting someone over a parking space. Vinca 20 hrs ago #59

I am not to say this was justified or not, but I have a question sarisataka 19 hrs ago #63

He should have MichMan 19 hrs ago #64

So she is just supposed to stand there angrychair 17 hrs ago #77

You see an "attack"; I see an argument muriel_volestrangler 17 hrs ago #78

I see centerists angrychair 16 hrs ago #82

As I said, I really don't understand where "centrists" come into this muriel_volestrangler 16 hrs ago #83

No angrychair 16 hrs ago #89

Very few people deserve to be killed sarisataka 16 hrs ago #84

Another thing to keep in mind is that... LudwigPastorius 6 hrs ago #110

I agree Kaleva 6 hrs ago #112

Bottom line, stupidity got him killed. Buddyzbuddy 19 hrs ago #65

"That's an entitled man that was used to scaring other people into doing what he wanted." MorbidButterflyTat 18 hrs ago #68

Leave it to judge and jury. Sneederbunk 19 hrs ago #66

Black woman, white older man csusan 17 hrs ago #80

Having been right is poor consolation when you're dead or in prison. RockRaven 16 hrs ago #85

In MN, she'd be incarcerated, whatever her story, because she didn't physically run away first. OC375 16 hrs ago #92

MN has castle doctrine sarisataka 16 hrs ago #93

Castle doctrine in name only. OC375 15 hrs ago #97

Can you provide a case sarisataka 15 hrs ago #98

State vs Blevins 2024 OC375 15 hrs ago #99

Not in the home sarisataka 15 hrs ago #100

We'll have to see... OC375 15 hrs ago #101

you have completely misrepresented almost the entirety of what the stopdiggin 7 hrs ago #109

We'll see OC375 2 hrs ago #116

But are you retreating if you get out of your car with a gun in your hand? Hassin Bin Sober 1 hr ago #117