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97. Castle doctrine in name only.

Fri Jul 3, 2026, 07:27 PM

7 hrs ago

You must try to evade, actively, within the home.

You can't shoot someone because they kicked in your door, and decided to start punching your wife or kid cause she done someone wrong or said something about someone. Duke it out, run away, whatever... grab a bat, or gun or anything useful, you're now the bad guy.

For that matter, if someone kicks in your door, grabs you by the shirt, and says gimme all your money or else... Well, you can't shoot them either, cause all they did grab and threaten you. Duke it out, run away, whatever... grab a bat, or gun or anything useful, you're now the bad guy.

No castle allows that.

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Man fatally shot in Walmart parking lot following dispute over parking space: Authorities [View all] groundloop 18 hrs ago OP

Good news for her. Now, she'll have her own, permanent parking space. 3Hotdogs 18 hrs ago #1

His parking spot will be in an urn over the fireplace wolfie001 16 hrs ago #16

Oofff Hassin Bin Sober 7 hrs ago #87

Ah, America. Where the answer to every problem is a gun. sinkingfeeling 18 hrs ago #2

It was a middle aged Black woman angrychair 13 hrs ago #35

it would SEEM you are correct but.... democratsruletheday 13 hrs ago #38

Why didn't she get in her car or walk into the store? I don't accept killing a person when there were other solutions. sinkingfeeling 13 hrs ago #39

What I saw was him closing the distance to her Kaleva 13 hrs ago #42

She initially got out of the car with a gun in her hand. That might be a problem for her. Hassin Bin Sober 7 hrs ago #94

Time will tell Kaleva 5 hrs ago #107

She tried angrychair 12 hrs ago #45

Retail stores have parking adequate for the holiday shopping season Blumancru 18 hrs ago #3

There's more to the story than this. flvegan 18 hrs ago #4

"Around the parking lot?" ... JustABozoOnThisBus 17 hrs ago #5

Testosterone poisoning? Miguelito Loveless 17 hrs ago #7

From the video, she appears to be a Woman of Color, that wish is going to be hard to get in Fla irisblue 15 hrs ago #18

Yes, she warned him several times, backed away from him again and again, tried to put cars between them. Midnight Writer 15 hrs ago #22

100%. and Thank You! (for putting some realistic perspective on this incident) stopdiggin 15 hrs ago #29

Wow what a nasty take. Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #23

nah. asshat really brought this on himself. stopdiggin 15 hrs ago #30

She did more than most would angrychair 13 hrs ago #36

It looked like a clear case of self defense to me Kaleva 13 hrs ago #43

Wow. Unbelievable. Wiz Imp 12 hrs ago #44

If the guy was rational, he would have retreated the moment he saw the Gun Kaleva 12 hrs ago #50

and called for cops to arrest her for threatening him muriel_volestrangler 11 hrs ago #62

No one in their right mind would approach someone with a gun Kaleva 5 hrs ago #104

It's a stand your ground state. NutmegYankee 12 hrs ago #54

SOmething was also seriously wrong with that woman. Wiz Imp 12 hrs ago #56

A jury will have to consider what he said prior, if anything, to advancing toward her. LudwigPastorius 12 hrs ago #57

100% agree bluestarone 8 hrs ago #74

As a whole, we ARE a disappointing species. There good people among us but I fear we are in societal collapse. OrlandoDem2 16 hrs ago #11

Listen to the news story. Wiz Imp 15 hrs ago #26

That isn't the whole story angrychair 13 hrs ago #37

stop making sense.... democratsruletheday 13 hrs ago #40

People should be nicer to one another. twodogsbarking 17 hrs ago #6

Don't wanna make it about me but as a 66 yo white male..... wolfie001 16 hrs ago #15

It looks like he was stalking her but she should have retreated to her car and not brandished the gun. Ritabert 16 hrs ago #8

Stop shopping at Walmart. So many People of Walmart suck! OrlandoDem2 16 hrs ago #9

He seemed intent on a physical confrontation, despite her pointing a gun 70sEraVet 16 hrs ago #10

+1. dalton99a 15 hrs ago #19

maybe it's the "Exception that Proves the Rule" Hieronymus Phact 15 hrs ago #28

Plus 2 bluestarone 8 hrs ago #75

I'm Sorry, But She Had Ample Opportunities to Return to the Store, Drive Off, Whatever DrFunkenstein 16 hrs ago #12

She tried angrychair 13 hrs ago #41

I didn't see in the video where he was preventing her from driving off MichMan 12 hrs ago #46

In Florida that's legal angrychair 12 hrs ago #51

I noticed MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #67

Old loser white guy kept on wolfie001 16 hrs ago #13

I am guessing that there is a backstory here, and not a pretty one. niyad 16 hrs ago #14

If This Was a Black Man and a White Woman, Imagine the Fox News Coverage and Campaign Ads DrFunkenstein 16 hrs ago #17

This could go either way NewEnglandAutumn 15 hrs ago #20

It was an argument over a parking spot. sop 15 hrs ago #21

If the guy was rational, he would have backed off as soon as he saw the gun Kaleva 12 hrs ago #47

Those are a lot of assumptions to justify shooting a man to death in a parking lot. sop 12 hrs ago #55

I certainly didn't see anything in the video that justified a shooting. NT Midwestern Democrat 12 hrs ago #48

Floriduh. SergeStorms 15 hrs ago #24

She didn't have to kill him, that's how the jury would see it FakeNoose 15 hrs ago #25

People are touchy these days. ananda 15 hrs ago #27

This is the Supreme Court's America J_William_Ryan 14 hrs ago #31

Had he the brains to back up & call the police saying a woman was threatening him with a gun, Wonder Why 14 hrs ago #32

I'm Pretty Sure Everyone Here Was Operating From The Amygdala, Except One Had a Handgun DrFunkenstein 13 hrs ago #34

Clearly angrychair 12 hrs ago #53

Why did she exit her car brandishing the gun instead of just driving away? MichMan 13 hrs ago #33

By law, she isn't required to drive away Kaleva 12 hrs ago #49

She isn't required to shoot and kill either MichMan 11 hrs ago #60

larger male repeatedly physically advancing on female that is (repeatedly) stopdiggin 9 hrs ago #71

Based on what I saw, I'd say her actions were resonable Kaleva 5 hrs ago #105

Some of these responses are disturbing angrychair 12 hrs ago #52

Why does race have to be a factor? MichMan 11 hrs ago #58

Why does gender have to be a factor? MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #69

Why should race be ignored? Torchlight 10 hrs ago #70

Because, it always about skin color angrychair 8 hrs ago #72

"People haven't even seen the video" MichMan 7 hrs ago #95

I'm not assuming anything angrychair 7 hrs ago #96

We have video; he was not in a position to physically threaten her muriel_volestrangler 11 hrs ago #61

Interesting angrychair 8 hrs ago #73

I might put it as "the unarmed person didn't do anything wrong or threatening" muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #76

Then the unarmed man angrychair 8 hrs ago #79

I don't see "might is right" as a good guiding principle muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #81

No angrychair 8 hrs ago #86

'Malice'? No. Recklessness, yes. muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #88

We are done angrychair 7 hrs ago #90

"Victim blaming"? I'm not blaming the victim. The victim is the dead guy. muriel_volestrangler 7 hrs ago #91

sorry, I see her as a gun humper Skittles 6 hrs ago #102

Sorry angrychair 6 hrs ago #103

SHE could have driven away too Skittles 5 hrs ago #106

He was the aggressor angrychair 5 hrs ago #108

That's just stupid. I can't imagine shooting someone over a parking space. Vinca 11 hrs ago #59

I am not to say this was justified or not, but I have a question sarisataka 11 hrs ago #63

He should have MichMan 10 hrs ago #64

So she is just supposed to stand there angrychair 8 hrs ago #77

You see an "attack"; I see an argument muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #78

I see centerists angrychair 8 hrs ago #82

As I said, I really don't understand where "centrists" come into this muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #83

No angrychair 7 hrs ago #89

Very few people deserve to be killed sarisataka 8 hrs ago #84

Bottom line, stupidity got him killed. Buddyzbuddy 10 hrs ago #65

"That's an entitled man that was used to scaring other people into doing what he wanted." MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #68

Leave it to judge and jury. Sneederbunk 10 hrs ago #66

Black woman, white older man csusan 8 hrs ago #80

Having been right is poor consolation when you're dead or in prison. RockRaven 8 hrs ago #85

In MN, she'd be incarcerated, whatever her story, because she didn't physically run away first. OC375 7 hrs ago #92

MN has castle doctrine sarisataka 7 hrs ago #93

Castle doctrine in name only. OC375 7 hrs ago #97

Can you provide a case sarisataka 7 hrs ago #98

State vs Blevins 2024 OC375 7 hrs ago #99

Not in the home sarisataka 6 hrs ago #100

We'll have to see... OC375 6 hrs ago #101