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Environment & Energy

Finishline42

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11. Personal example of what EV's are doing that ICE vehicles won't - GET CHEAPER

Reply to NNadir (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 26, 2026, 04:27 PM

Jun 26

I bought a 2021 Model Y, all wheel drive, extended range from Tesla in Dec 2023. Had 39,000 miles on it. Spent $37k

Today you can buy a similar Model Y for $30k. Mainly because of the advances in battery tech.

Ford's new Truck coming out in 2027 will start at $30k and use LFP batteries made under license from CATL.

LFT batteries?

An LFP battery is a Lithium Iron Phosphate (LiFePO4) rechargeable battery. Known for exceptional safety, longevity, and affordability, it uses iron and phosphate instead of expensive, conflict-prone materials like cobalt and nickel. It is widely used in electric vehicles and home solar storage.

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2026 Study on whether EV's are better for the environment than ICE vehicles (not one from 2019) [View all] Finishline42 Jun 25 OP

Oh boy!!!! A tweet about a "study." All those batteries are saving the world.... NNadir Jun 25 #1

2019 refers to Table 1 in the study Finishline42 Jun 26 #2

If one reads the scientific literature regularly and in detail, as I do... NNadir Jun 26 #5

Personal example of what EV's are doing that ICE vehicles won't - GET CHEAPER Finishline42 Jun 26 #11

I do understand that there are people who consider themselves noble and "green" based on their bourgeois... NNadir Jun 26 #12

Here's a Sankey diagram - What's rejected energy??? Finishline42 Jun 26 #3

What is your solution for transport? muriel_volestrangler Jun 26 #4

Dimethyl ether produced with the industrial scale hydrogenation of carbon dioxide. NNadir Jun 26 #6

Oh. so it's an unproven atmospheric carbon capture strategy? muriel_volestrangler Jun 26 #7

I have never confused feasibility with inevitability. NNadir Jun 26 #8

The thing is that you attack any method of decreasing CO2 emissions that doesn't equal your "feasible" end technology muriel_volestrangler Jun 26 #9

My opinions on energy have been developed over 40 years of literature research. NNadir Jun 26 #10

As an aside, the Toyota hybrid engines are the best. hunter Jun 27 #13

Just curious, what year Prius? I'm still driving a 2011 RandomNumbers Jun 28 #15

I'll confess it's not typical U.S.A. driving. hunter Jun 29 #16

I just realized I didn't answer your question. hunter Tuesday #17

Why do you drive a hybrid? Are your car's batteries saving the world? Or do you see some other advantage? OKIsItJustMe Jun 28 #14