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eppur_se_muova

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7. Thanks for the paper. I knew about the older nuclear interest.
Sat May 16, 2026, 01:07 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)

Project Orion has been discussed in many books about the history of the atomic bomb, bios of famous physicists involved in the Manhattan Project, space travel, etc. If you'll search old posts in DU you'll find references to the AF's mockup nuclear-powered bomber and nuclear-H2 engines (mostly about the history of these discontinued projects).

One of the odder ideas was to coat a pusher plate with Cf-254, which decomposes mostly by spontaneous fission. The ejected nuclei would be the reaction mass, and since they travel at marginally-relativistic velocities, the potential terminal velocity would be tremendous. The problem, of course, would be in handling such a huge amount of Cf-254.

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Another fucking waste of money. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #1
Previous ion engines have favored very heavy atoms as propellant -- mercury or xenon. More atomic mass -- eppur_se_muova Yesterday #2
The NERVA engine used hydrogen, so (you know) lithium is heavier than that, but certainly lighter than mercury OKIsItJustMe Yesterday #4
Hydrogen is being used there as ejectable mass, nothing more. It's handled by mechanical pumps and pressure. eppur_se_muova Yesterday #5
Check out the NASA paper I added to the bottom of the reply OKIsItJustMe Yesterday #6
Thanks for the paper. I knew about the older nuclear interest. eppur_se_muova Yesterday #7
NERVA was not the same as Orion OKIsItJustMe 23 hrs ago #8
Yes, I know that, thank you. In fact you're just repeating things I've already said in my replies. nt eppur_se_muova 20 hrs ago #10
We both realize that (I was even repeating myself) OKIsItJustMe 20 hrs ago #12
Ah, OK ... writing for a larger audience ... eppur_se_muova 19 hrs ago #14
I've been watching "For All Mankind" on Apple TV OKIsItJustMe 18 hrs ago #15
Isn't lithium in somewhat short supply? erronis Yesterday #3
Meanwhile, at a grossly overspent under intellectual trump supported SpaceX 3825-87867 21 hrs ago #9
NASA is facing serious cuts OKIsItJustMe 20 hrs ago #11
More from the paper cited by OKIsItJustMe .... eppur_se_muova 19 hrs ago #13
"It must have been a real pleasure to work out the mathematics of MPD for the first time..." OKIsItJustMe 18 hrs ago #16
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