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LuckyCharms

(20,940 posts)
Sat Oct 11, 2025, 12:50 PM Oct 11

I'm the type of person who has always been proud to pay his income taxes. [View all]

Most people don't especially like paying taxes, but I kind of do. It's a cost to us because we live in society.

In a society, things that benefit us need to be paid for, because nothing comes for free.

Now, there are several tax laws that I don't particularly like, and I don't like that fact that corporations, and singular billionaires, can literally skirt paying ANY taxes if they work hard enough to find and take advantage of loop holes.

In spite of this, I've always viewed paying income taxes as my duty as a citizen. The same with voting. It's my duty and responsibility.

But now...I'm having these gnawing feelings of despair, because I feel like my income taxes are eventually finding their way into Trump's pocket, ICE bonuses, kidnappings on the street, and military equipment and personal to blow up small fishing boats.

I'm nobody, nobody in the big picture. But still, what little of it there is, it's MY money, and I don't want it to go into Trump's pockets. I don't want one cent to go to ICE so they can harass food vendors and chase scared Americans (or people of any nationality) into their homes, making them fearful to go outside again for the rest of their lives.

I'm thinking really hard, trying to figure out if I'm a hypocrite in a way, because I never felt this way when thinking about contributing to the funding of foreign wars. I don't like it, but I view it as that's "just the way it is and I have to grin and bear it".

But what is happening now feels different to me. I draw a picture in mind of my paltry sum of money getting stuffed into the suit jacket pocket of the orange one. Because that's where a lot of our taxes end up, one way or another.

In the meantime...people starve.

I know this post is a little convoluted, and some parts may be contradictory, but I can't help feeling this way. I'm having trouble expressing this entire concept without coming across as a hypocrite.

If anyone responds, please don't hit me with "but you didn't mind paying money to fund the wars in Afghanistan, Israel, etc". I know...and that's why I'm struggling with the nature of how I'm currently feeling. It's hard to put into words.

And the reason maybe why I feel like a hypocrite is...do I feel this way because the brutality is hitting too close to home now?

I'm really doing some soul searching about this all of this...

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I am okay with paying taxes Bluestocking Oct 11 #1
Really? LuckyCharms Oct 11 #2
Unless you are paying only retirement taxes, your tax dollars are going to both ICE and the salaries of Republicans Ms. Toad Oct 11 #10
🤭 MerryBlooms Oct 11 #19
I don't understand your last line, unless it is just wishful thinking. Ferrets are Cool Oct 12 #31
" Taxes are the price we pay for a civilized society." rsdsharp Oct 11 #3
I guess we still do... LuckyCharms Oct 11 #5
Reasonable question. yellow dahlia Oct 11 #15
I never complain when I pay my taxes. SamKnause Oct 11 #4
I feel the same, but now... LuckyCharms Oct 11 #6
Taxes are the price to live in a civilized country. Emile Oct 11 #7
I don't mind the people who are complaining about taxes. OldBaldy1701E Oct 12 #26
You are not alone. nt Prairie_Seagull Oct 11 #8
It is human ForgedCrank Oct 11 #9
Valid. LuckyCharms Oct 11 #11
Every year we owe about 2k in Federal taxes Lifeafter70 Oct 11 #12
I don't ForgedCrank Oct 11 #13
I understand what you are saying about hidden taxes Lifeafter70 Oct 11 #14
See My Reply To That Poster ProfessorGAC Oct 11 #17
A Bit Confusing ProfessorGAC Oct 11 #16
Thank you Lifeafter70 Oct 11 #18
All of ForgedCrank Oct 11 #20
Not All ProfessorGAC Oct 11 #21
Ok, you ForgedCrank Oct 11 #23
Equipment is not taxed directly, but those manufacturing the equipment are and they pass that along to the buyers MichMan Oct 12 #34
Hardly The Point ProfessorGAC Oct 12 #36
Now I want my taxes to go to my state mainer Oct 11 #22
That is the same argument used by those who favor eliminating federal agencies and making the states responsible MichMan Oct 12 #35
I would be happy to send my taxes to the feds mainer Oct 12 #37
Lucky Charms dlilafae Oct 12 #24
I like your statement: LuckyCharms Oct 12 #25
It's a time that calls for soul searching. Biophilic Oct 12 #27
+1. Well said. LuckyCharms Oct 12 #30
If you have to pay taxes, you're in good shape, pay them. Turbineguy Oct 12 #28
That's the way I look at it too. Haggard Celine Oct 12 #38
Paying taxes didn't bother me before the criminal mob took control. Now, I am glad I'm poor enough to be mostly untaxed Attilatheblond Oct 12 #29
I loathe those commercials..." I owed the IRS $135,000 and with the help of Ferrets are Cool Oct 12 #32
Age Old Dilemma OC375 Oct 12 #33
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