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Martin Eden

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18. Here's my take, which is speculation based on the track record in this sorry mess:

Tue Jun 23, 2026, 10:21 AM

Jun 23

Readmission of inspectors was discussed as a possibility during current negotiations, but no actual agreement or protocols were reached at this time.

Vance is lying because the administration is desperate to show that Iran is making concessions. The Iranian spokesman is factually correct, but not telling the whole story.

Diplomatically, Vance claiming the concession has already been made when it has not, makes the concession less likely.

Trump sent amateurs to handle extremely difficult negotiations, and he handicaps them with lies, insults, and unhinged vascillating rhetoric which includes threats that violate the MOU -- actually threatening the lives of the negotiators.

The whole world sees this. It's painful to think about the depth and breadth of harm to America's reputation, and how long it may take to earn respect and trust again.

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It appears our Government is lying to us about the Iran war... [View all] spanone Jun 23 OP

Oh My! malaise Jun 23 #1

I know, it's SHOCKING!!!! spanone Jun 23 #2

I'm shocked I tell you, shocked! ananda Jun 23 #28

We are at a place in time where we can no longer believe or trust in the government. How sad. Katinfl Jun 23 #3

I believe and trust the current administration... sindri Jun 23 #11

Well, can anybody identify any clear lies the Iranians have told since Trump started bombing? Bluetus Jun 23 #24

Or... the Iranians are gaslighting? There is no way we can know. Srkdqltr Jun 23 #4

That's my response as well EdmondDantes_ Jun 23 #6

Time will tell Kaleva Jun 23 #7

Here's my take, which is speculation based on the track record in this sorry mess: Martin Eden Jun 23 #18

On target Nasruddin Jun 23 #25

They had to send amateurs, they fired most of the career diplomatic officials sboatcar Jun 23 #27

Our Government Lying? Timewas Jun 23 #5

I know, amazing. Srkdqltr Jun 23 #8

The governmennt lying, death, taxes. You get it. twodogsbarking Jun 23 #9

When it is more prudent to believe a spokesman for the Iranian regime... Martin Eden Jun 23 #10

The Trump administration lied? Ray Bruns Jun 23 #12

"It appears our Government is lying to us about....." PatSeg Jun 23 #13

That would be a very, very short list. state of stupid Jun 23 #20

Absolutely PatSeg Jun 23 #21

*--* Gasp! *--* lastlib Jun 23 #14

Yup. Their lips were moving... Martin68 Jun 23 #15

As there's no real or measurable benefit otherwise, I'll presume Torchlight Jun 23 #16

NO! SergeStorms Jun 23 #17

The Iranians are telling truth. Our piece of s___ Republicans are LYING ! dave99 Jun 23 #19

Ya Think? MineralMan Jun 23 #22

trmp has proven that he is the most prodigious liar of all times. spanone Jun 23 #23

It's not a good situation when reports from both sides are unreliable. Ocelot II Jun 23 #26

Now ask IAEA Chief Grossi. moondust Jun 23 #29

Vance, lying. Damn, I'm shocked. republianmushroom Jun 23 #30

Really weird: public radio this morning snot Jun 23 #31